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Subject: Re: WAC 8

Author: James Robertson

Date: 20:45:47 10/24/99

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On October 24, 1999 at 22:54:00, William Bryant wrote:

>On October 24, 1999 at 12:55:22, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>r4q1k/p2bR1rp/2p2Q1N/5p2/5p2/2P5/PP3PPP/R5K1 w - - bm Rf7; id WAC008;
>>
>>My program has always solved WAC 8 easily. But last night I noticed the latest
>>version chose Nf7+ instead of Rf7. I looked at the position with Crafty 16.18,
>>and it gives mate in 7 after Rf7. After Nf7+, Crafty gives mate in 10 on ply 12,
>>so this value may not be trustworthy.
>>
>>Can anyone look at the position and find out how far Nf7+ really is from mate?
>>
>>James
>
>
>Jumping on this thread late,
>
>James, mate positions in the hash table can be tricky.  My first problems were
>with the program never choosing the shortest path to mate. Bruce is an advocate
>of only storing bounds -not- distance to mate in the hash table.  Bob, just the
>opposite.
>
>If you were solving this before your latest 'change'.  See if the change affects
>your hash table and therefore starts leading you for a longer mate.
>
>William
>wbryant@ix.netcom.com

I generally test WAC with 5 seconds per position. On my P233, nobody finds this
mate in that amount of time. :)

James



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