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Subject: Re: Crafty rating on ICC

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:41:16 10/26/99

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On October 25, 1999 at 23:04:42, Peter Kappler wrote:

>On October 25, 1999 at 22:06:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 25, 1999 at 21:26:11, Jerry wrote:
>>
>>>On October 25, 1999 at 20:39:05, Michael Fuhrmann wrote:
>>>
>>>>Crafty's Blitz rating on ICC hit an incredible 3262 today. It's a new high for
>>>>Crafty, which is miles ahead of the competition on the ICC best list. Congrats
>>>>to Hyatt!
>>>
>>>One reason Crafty is rated so high is his incredible noplay list, refusing to
>>>play other high rated computer programs when he loses a few times...
>>
>>
>>Please name the "high rated programs" on crafty's noplay list, if you want to
>>make a statement like that...
>>
>>Here is the actual ICC noplay list:
>>
>>*********        -human cheating
>>*********        -human cheating
>>CraftyCrafty     -crafty clone
>>*********        -bad behavior
>>grouchy          -crafty clone
>>*********        -human cheating
>>*********        -admitted human cheating
>>*************    -human cheating
>>ComputerMan      -craftyclone
>>Dementia         -disconnector
>>EA6PZ            -censored for attitude
>>Eza              -crafty clone
>>*********        -human cheating
>>attakinski       -disconnector (chessmaster celeron 333)
>>cookies          -crafty clone
>>criollo          -crafty clone
>>DesX             -crafty clone
>>*************    -human cheating
>>ibrax            -human cheating (admitted)
>>Lippy            -crafty clone
>>bookbuilder      -crafty clone
>>counterplay      -crafty clone
>>*****            -human cheating
>>********         -human caught playing and observing at same time
>>GODMODE          -crafty clone
>>inmortal         -crafty clone
>>Varguz           -disconnector and more than 4 games in a row.
>>ban              -disconnected multiple times in one game.  (junior 6.x)
>>brut             -crafty clone
>>crafty450        -crafty clone
>>Data             -crafty clone
>>dini             -refused to identify program/hardware
>>egghead          -crafty clone
>>Good-Boy         -everybody has noplayed him for attitude
>>Jack-Daniels     -crafty clone
>>*********        -human cheating
>>
>>Any names with ***** in them are humans that were caught cheating but which
>>have not yet gotten a (C) nor admitted it.
>>
>>The "disconnectors" are done by my custom interface when I run it.  If someone
>>disconnects two times in one game, does so in two consecutive games, they get
>>+noplayed for obvious reasons.
>>
>>Crafty Clones are _not_ wanted.  I can do those games offline.  Xboard and my
>>custom interface both automatically +noplay any crafty clone that matches
>>crafty.
>>
>>
>>
>>Here is best(c):
>>
>>Standard            Blitz               Bullet
>>2827 OzsO(C)        3251 crafty(C)      3123 crafty(C)
>>2783 Good-Boy(C)    3155 Mofongo(C)     2960 Ferret(C)
>>2724 Ferret(C)      3145 A-Morozevi(GM) 2956 ZarkovX(C)
>>2714 Lynnett(C)     3136 Ferret(C)      2857 Sammour-Hasbun
>>2693 TheComputer(C) 3115 Hawkeye(IM)    2854 Dlugy(GM)
>>2667 crafty(C)      3069 Vic11          2799 Lippy(C)
>>2655 SandmanJr(C)   3068 FlyingPike(GM) 2791 Wagner(FM)
>>2612 KillerGrob(C)  3061 ban(C)         2779 Vic11
>>2603 cptnBluebe(GM) 3025 gahan(GM)      2771 vaska(GM)
>>2593 ZarkovX(C)     3018 Lippy(C)       2760 Secret(C)
>>2583 counterplay(C) 3016 Tendulkar(GM)  2760 Tack(GM)
>>2577 singacrafty(C) 3013 cptnBluebe(GM) 2754 KillerGrob(C)
>>2577 Zenith(C)      3009 Dlugy(GM)      2750 Masterchess(C)
>>2576 Moron(C)       3006 Rix(IM)        2745 Hawkeye(IM)
>>2569 Steffie(C)     2996 EggSalad(C)    2733 brut(C)
>>2548 triskelon(C)   2995 GMAlex(GM)     2721 nataf(GM)
>>2543 BountyHunte(C) 2990 Lolita(C)      2718 pap(GM)
>>2542 Lippy(C)       2984 NDShort(GM)    2716 UFGator(C)
>>2541 mundilfari(C)  2974 jeleen(GM)     2691 jaguar
>>
>>
>>Please show me all those "top-rated" programs I have noplayed.  I play Ferret,
>>Zarkov, etc.  On the standard list, I have played ozso until he quit playing me
>>as he was trying to see how high he could drive his standard rating.  I play
>>Ferret regularly.  Sandmanjr.  Zarkovx, and bountyhunter (no crafty clones at
>>all).  On the blitz list, I play ferret, have played ban a lot although he got
>>+noplayed sometime recently by the automatic disconnect detector.
>
>
>This is really disappointing, as Ban and Ferret are the only SMP-capable
>programs (besides other Crafty clones) on ICC.  I enjoyed watching the Crafty
>vs. Ban encounters - the games were always very tense and well fought.
>
>Despite the history between you and Amir, I doubt that the disconnects were
>intentional.  Probably just a poor connection on his side.  I hope you will
>reconsider the "noplay" status.
>
>--Peter


I had (previously in this thread) already told him I would remove him.  I didn't
know he was on the list, because I only ran the custom interface for about 1 day
or so, and the +noplay is automatic and "silent".  Unless I look (which I do
from time to time) I don't know who is on there.



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