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Subject: Re: Crafty rating on ICC

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:50:42 10/28/99

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On October 28, 1999 at 14:26:57, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On October 27, 1999 at 15:22:29, Alexander Kure wrote:
>
>>On October 27, 1999 at 11:55:49, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>You noplayed the two highest rated blitz computers around (Ban & Varguz). The
>>>others are either hundreds of points lower or don't come any longer.
>>>
>>
>>As I run Varguz on my second compi I think I can add something:
>>
>>I do not care if Crafty is noplaying Varguz. I do not have a noplaylist, cause I
>>simply do not care. I think Crafty is an amateur program that could learn a lot
>>from playing the commercials.
>>Let me put it this way: Compared to the strong commercial programs like Junior,
>>Fritz, Hiarcs and Nimzo Crafty is much weaker and needs some improvements to be
>>a match for the above programs on equal hardware.
>
>Be fair. You are forgetting that the commercial programs do not publish their
>source code. Sure they are stronger, they have the crafty source code to look
>at. Due to this, one might say that crafty defines the dividing line between the
>top programs and the also rans. If your program is not at least as good as
>crafty, then it is not a top program. No matter how much Hyatt improves his
>program, he will never be able to best the top programs (for very long anyway),
>since he gives away all his ideas.
>
>>
>>Greetings Alex


And we _know_ that nobody uses those outdated ideas in Crafty, right?  :)

IE book learning, some of the evaluation terms...  etc.  I have been really
hesitant to release the new pawn majority code because no one else is doing
this that I can recognize, at least not doing it effectively.  The minute 17.0
hits the street, others will be doing it soon.

Good or bad?

A one-way flow of information?

Is it really worth it?



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