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Subject: Re: Crafty rating on ICC

Author: blass uri

Date: 14:40:32 10/28/99

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On October 28, 1999 at 17:20:26, Alexander Kure wrote:

>On October 28, 1999 at 17:06:42, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On October 28, 1999 at 16:51:56, Alexander Kure wrote:
>><snipped>
>>>I cannot confirm that commercial programs _do_ learn a lot from crafty's source
>>>code. What can be learnt from it?
>>
>>crafty does some things that some commercial programs start to do only now.
>>
>>examples:
>>1)using nalimov tablebases
>
>
>Using Nalimov tablebases was not totally new. Years before there were Ken
>Thompson's Endgame tablebases. I do not know if crafty was the first chess
>programm to access egtbs in his search.

I know it is using nalimov tablebases for some years and using nalimov
tablebases is better than Thompson's tablebases.

Thompson's tablebases do not "know" if the position is a draw or a win for the
side with less material.
>
>>2)learning from previous search by not clearing hash tables after every move
>>
>>crafty has some knoledge in simple endgames that some commercial programs do not
>>have
>>
>>It understand cases when KBPP vs K is a draw.
>
>
>this is a 5 piece ending - no need to know.

It understands it also if the opponent has a pawn.

Uri




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