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Subject: Re: Moderation: Humans, care and feeding of

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 02:06:10 10/29/99

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On October 28, 1999 at 20:22:35, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On October 28, 1999 at 18:43:52, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>I'm not doing much flaming recently. I'm more at the receiving end at present.
>>Are the moderators on vacation or something ?
>>
>>I remember we had this special policy about Bob. Is it still in force ?
>
>Yeah, and the same policy is in force regarding you, I would hope.
>
>Moderators are given quite a bit of freedom to decide how to try to guide the
>atmosphere of this place, and I think that the people who have been willing to
>do the job have expressed a wide range of attitudes.  There was also some range
>of opinion amongst the original founders.  None of this was ever worked out and
>is still a source of trouble.  I am hoping that over time, we will develop a
>culture here that will provide "correct" solutions for common problems, but we
>don't have them all yet.
>
>Here is an example.  You were the subject of the very *first* moderation
>complaint in CCC history.

For the record, the first moderation complaints in CCC history had nothing to do
with Amir. In fact, I don't remember any complaints about Amir during the first
moderation period.

More important in my opinion is this "special policy" regarding Bob and Amir
and, I guess, some others. If a given status means that we are all equal
concerning the charter of CCC but some are more equal than others, then I
strongly object. This "special policy" that you hope is in force is nothing but
a policy of double standards, and as such not fair.

Enrique

>  One of the founders asked about a DB vs Kasparov
>game, and made a self-deprecating comment about himself regarding his failure to
>go find the game himself.  You responded in agreement with the self-deprecating
>comment, and went on to either provide the game or a link or additional
>comments, I can't remember exactly what, and this founder complained to the rest
>of us about your post.  We decided to do nothing.
>
>This is a big issue.  Not all of us are happy with each other all the time, and
>not every post expresses joy and satisfaction with what others are doing or
>saying.  Sometimes people make light nasty remarks and then go on to say
>something else of substance.  The question is what to do about this.
>
>Personally, I prefer that a little latitude be given, while asking that people
>refrain from doing that kind of thing.  I am mushy on the issue, I'm still
>trying to develop a policy that makes sense, given the people involved.  Sorry
>if that isn't clear and consistent enough, but it's the best I have come up
>with.
>
>Bob is clearly upset with you.  The reverse also seems to be true.  It seems to
>be a complex situation that I hope you guys can resolve yourselves.
>
>Please don't think I agree with everything that Bob says.  I do not.  Nor do I
>encourage his rhetorical technique.
>
>bruce



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