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Subject: Re: Please stop the bickering

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 03:03:38 10/29/99

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>Posted by Peter McKenzie on October 29, 1999 at 04:37:00:
>
>In Reply to: Please stop the bickering posted by Ed Schröder on October 29,
>1999 at 02:34:23:
>
>Well Ed, we are all here for a bit of bickering aren't we?

No.

The point is Bob's often repeated criticism to commercial chess programmers
and their contributions to computer chess programming. I pointed out this is not
true giving the example of the null-move and who it was who made the algorithm
world famous.

The way you have pointed out your (below) view in a friendly and non accusing
style is very fine with me.

That's what the whole topic is about concerning me.

Ed


>OK OK, we'll call it debate then.
>
>Bob has a point, the commercial programmers don't publish very much at all.  I
>think this is natural - when your living depends on the quality of your
>software
>why give away your secrets to the competition?
>
>I do think however, that this attitude of secrecy is somewhat unnecessary
>and a
>little short sited.  I am sure that any of the top commercial chess progammers
>would be capable of making an interesting and valuable contribution to the
>literature without giving away too much in the way of important secrets.
>
>Publishing academic work can have a significant positive effect on the
>author if
>done in a rigorous manner.  The commercial chess programmers might be
>pleasantly
>surprised if they gave it a try.  I've noticed Ed that you let out some
>details
>about Rebel from time to time - perhaps one day you will write something
>for us?
>I'd like to know a bit more about your pruning - your 'CrazyEval' idea sounds
>interesting.
>
>I agree to some extent with your comments about the ICCAJ.  I had a look
>through
>some issues at Paderborn, and there wasn't much that looked useful for the
>practical chess programmer.  Much more interesting stuff to be found in the
>newsgroups and forums such as CCC.
>
>cheers,
>Peter




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