Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 03:10:30 10/30/99
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>Posted by Robert Hyatt on October 29, 1999 at 22:23:25: >I agree with you ed. You have said at least one thing here that got me to >thinking, and was the direct impetus for me to do the q-search pruning. I >pointed out the 'best-move' problem. You got faster. Notice that 'trend'. >Imagine how much progress would happen if we were _all_ doing this? Okay, let's stop the bickering... I like to add a few points to consider. There have been a number of unique features introduced by me first in the Mephisto dedicated series and later in Rebel which I found back a few years later in competitor programs. I don't complain about it as I think it is only natural. >I didn't imply that myself, I think someone else did. I implied that most >commercial chess programmers 'lurk' and take what they can. And return >nothing. >I only want to see the commercial guys join in a bit more. This is unreasonable to ask. Joining public conversations like in CCC has a lot of side effects which may force them to stay away or limit themselves to the read-only status. #1. It costs lots of time. #2. Answer user questions. #3. Answers questions on subjects you don't like to talk about on that moment such as a release date. Since you are a member you have to answer it anyway. #4. Criticism on your product. It's natural but you must be able to handle it. #5. Obligation to join a discussion you don't like. Our current discussion is a perfect example of this. As you said yourself: "I implied that most commercial chess programmers 'lurk' and take what they can. And return nothing." IMO is not true and as an active member you are forced to give your opinion as if you don't there is the risk people might think you agree especially when things are repeated several times. #6. Not everybody by nature likes to express himself in public. #7. Commercial programs are often discussed and before you know you are in the middle of a flame, maybe the main reason to stay away? Enough reasons not to post I would say so. >The above had _nothing_ to do with 'using my code' and I don't see how you >even think that it did. It had to do with publishing what you do, _after_ you >get it to market and enjoy the benefits. IE after you release Rebel X this >year, and everyone else releases NimzoX, Fritx X, etc... they can't change >their programs, so what is the justification for not explaining the new ideas >you had? I would be a fool doing so, and not only for commercial reasons. Some of us like to compete too, no? And maybe all? Isn't that natural? So you hide things because of that too. I don't feel obliged to contribute my sources or idea's in public because you choose to do so. You have chosen to make your sources public and a lot of people love you for that. But you can't force others to do as you do and then if they don't do that, or don't do that enough in your opinion, make them look bad in public for reasons which are not so clear after some consideration. Ed
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