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Subject: Re: Please stop the bickering

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 15:00:34 10/30/99

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On October 29, 1999 at 21:07:30, Amir Ban wrote:

>On October 29, 1999 at 19:20:45, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>
>>On October 29, 1999 at 18:33:14, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>It so happens I'm quite familiar with Intel, and there's no truth in what you
>>>say. Intel will publish with a product anything that is needed to make you
>>>comfortable using it and buying it. That's quite a lot, usually, but they won't
>>>tell you anything beyond that.
>>>
>>>One of the things Intel currently does is a strategic effort to reinvent PC
>>>architectire from an open standard into something Intel-proprietary. The
>>>so-called "firmware hub", e.g., will replace the old BIOS, and the LPC bus
>>>replaces the ISA bus. The specifications are secret or restricted to Intel
>>>partners. If Intel succeeds in this, competitors like AMD will have a real
>>>problem.
>>>
>>>Microsoft is doing something similar in the past few years. They made DOS into
>>>the most successful OS ever by making it totally open and attracting third-party
>>>developers, who really made DOS successful. Microsoft now thinks that those
>>>third-party developers are a nuisance and they are closing many specifications.
>>>For example, NTFS (the NT file-system) is not documented.
>>
>>David A. Solomon
>>"Inside Windows NT / Second edition"
>>Microsoft Press, Redmond, Washington, USA 1998
>>ISBN 1-57231-677-2
>>Chapter 9 "Windows NT File System (NTFS)"
>>
>
>Does it give the file-system data structures ?
>
>Maybe I'm wrong about this. However, my company cooperates with Microsoft and at
>some point where one way to do something was to manipulate NTFS structures
>directly, Microsoft people told us to forget it since Microsoft won't disclose
>this information.
>
>Amir

I think that you can get MS to give out enough information that you can write
your own IFS (installable file system), but not enough to tinker with NTFS, e.g.
my understanding is like Amir's, not Eugene's.

I say this as someone who used to work at an optical storage VAR that was
experienced at developing drivers for Sun boxes and was specifically interested
in developing drivers for NT as well.

Dave



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