Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 00:08:57 10/31/99
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On October 30, 1999 at 12:04:18, Fernando Villegas wrote: >The long thread which is esentially a discussion between Bob H. and Ed S. has >something surrealistic in it. Bob is -or was- arguing that commercial guys does >not contribute to the field because they are secretive of his little tricks and >just like to make technical profit from non commercial guys ideas; Ed is saying >-or said- that's not really true, as much this and that technique was delivered >by this or that commercial programmer. >Bob is the purest case of non commercial, not money interested reasercher and >his child Crafty the paradigm of the freeware world; Ed is the purest case of >professional commercial progammer, enterily dedicated to that since ever, with >the best developed commercial site, constant attention to his customers, etc, >etc. How guys so opposed in needs, interest and position in life can even meet >in a common ground to share even a definition about what is the issue under >discussion? >Ed earns a life selling his products and so he should be a fool to give his >relatives advantages to his competence; the esence of his work is to keep his >trade secrets the longest time he can. Bob is a scientist that earns his life >teaching and researching in an university; the esence of his work is becoming >public the soon as possible to get recognition from his peers and help his field >to give another step. >So clearly they cannot cut a deal even it such thing appears to happen due to >good manners and a mutual desire to end the discussion with some kind of >diplomatic uinderstanding. They even does not understand in the same way what is >a new idea. For Bob is just matter of who was the guy that first wrote about the >discussed issue in a scientific magazine; for Ed is a matter of who was the guy >that put the idea to work in an efficient way. The same with colaboration; for >Bob, as scientist, is about sharing concepts and discoveries; for Ed, as a >commercial guy, is a mater of cooperation for mutual -not universal- benefice. >Ed is prepared to share his ideas with Theron because both of them are joined in >a common commercial adventure; as much as he does so, he surely see himself as a >man that cooperates after all for the advancement of the field. For Bob nothing >less than to communicate his thought to the entire world is enough. >Who is right' Nobody is. They are different persons in differents situations, >each of them doing his best and producing universal benefice in dfferent ways, >one direct, the other more indirect. And we need both approachs. What a >scientist can get in the atmosphere of university campus probably concnetrates >in the area of pure research; what a commercial technics can gets the better is >getting general ideas works better and better. Sooner or later both ways meets >and the entire field jump o a higher level. >Fernando I don't think I would behave different if Rebel wasn't a commercial program regarding contributions. For me the item of competing would remain decisive. Ed
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