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Subject: Re: The Bickering Debate

Author: Micheal Cummings

Date: 00:12:30 10/31/99

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On October 31, 1999 at 00:13:17, Pete Galati wrote:

>On October 30, 1999 at 22:44:17, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>
>>On October 30, 1999 at 17:42:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On October 30, 1999 at 16:12:12, Pillsbury wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>>I must appreciate the programmers who do a fine job of creating a grandmaster
>>>>who waits for me round the clock, ready to play chess anytime. I even deside how
>>>>strong he can play depending on my mood! The price I paid is very small. I must
>>>>appreciate the commercial programmers. There is competition to make sure that
>>>>there is contribution, improvement etc., This is the way nature works. The
>>>>fittest will survive.
>>>>
>>>>I do not believe in 'free stuff' especially when I want the best!
>>>>
>>>>karthick
>>>
>>>
>>>Sorry you feel that way, because you are going to miss Linux, Xwindows, gcc,
>>>and a zillion other things that are as good or better than anything you can
>>>get commercially.
>>>
>>>However, there is always someone willing to take your money, so you won't
>>>be disappointed on that front.  :)
>>
>>From my point of view I have nothing ahinst free stuff, I have found some handy
>>free programs.
>>
>>But when it comes to chess I have always had the impression that freeware chess
>>programs are not up to standard of commercial. This is clear in the interface,
>>but from tourmaments that people have run, commercial program always seem to be
>>better than freeware.
>>
>>Many freeware programs seem to be written more because it is a hobby. This does
>>not include the larger companies which produce internet broswers and the such,
>>cause they have other agendas to push.
>>
>>I do not use any chess program that run on winboard, cause I hate the interface.
>>For ICC I use Blitzn.
>>
>>If you wrote an nice interface for your program years ago, you could have been
>>rolling in allot of money, thats if you are not already.
>>
>>Mental thought dictates that Freeware is cheap in both quantity and quality.
>
>You don't understand the concept of freeware at all, they're not trying to be
>"rolling in allot of money".  And the top programs that run in Winboard are far
>from "cheap" in quality.  Crafty, Comet, and Phalanx are all high quality Chess
>programs, the same can be said for mid strength programs like TCB and Gromit and
>Lamb Chop and Bringer, not to mention AnMon.
>
>There isn't such a wide margin between the strength of the best freeware
>programs and the best commercial programs.  The most you can really expect is to
>get a good interface with the commercial programs and there's allot to be said
>for that, but there's not much need to do that any more than maybee once every 5
>or more years.
>
>Pete

You misunderstand what I am saying. It is quite clear that the quality of
product of Freeware programs is quite large than that of commercial. I have not
seen a freeware program, in lets say a game that comes close to anything that
you can but for $80 Aus.

Freeware is usually much smaller and less quality, usually in the interface. Now
you can go on all you want, but being a person who does look at a hell of allot
of shareware and freeware. There is maybe only 3% of freeware products that are
worth using, and this is basically only due to either, no commercial product is
available for it, cause it is not worth making a program for the specific deed.
Or because people want say a PIM organzer, or address book, or download manager,
and the freeware version usually have all they need with no bells and whistles.



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