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Subject: Re: Please stop the bickering

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 00:23:47 10/31/99

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>Posted by Robert Hyatt on October 30, 1999 at 10:16:22:
>
>>Joining public conversations like in CCC has a lot of side effects which
>>may force them to stay away or limit themselves to the read-only status.
>
>Then don't "join in" here.  If you have something that you think is clever,
>release your program.  After the 'new batch of releases' are out by everyone
>else, write it up and submit it to the JICCA.  You get no questions, not
>bugging about release dates, etc.
>
>Remember that _I_ get the _same_ questions, criticisms, etc here also, and I
>am _not_ a commercial vendor.  It just comes with the territory.

Unreasonable to ask.

Not everybody likes to write for a magazine. Writing in CCC is easy, some
quick notes and that's it. Writing for a magazine is quite different. I did
it once (1984 I believe) for the dutch computer chess magazine "Computer
Schaak" when I was asked to explain about Rebel's selective search and
my own invented A/B algorithm because everybody was surprised to see Rebel
hitting 6 plies on a TRS-80 1.77 Mhz.

I hated it. I hated it because after 3-4 days of hard work the editors told me
they didn't understand the contents and they wanted me to do it all over. Later
much later after version 4.0 (and with the help of the editor) the article was
ready for publication and frankly I must say that it looked a lot better than my
first try. I said  never again. The ICCA has asked my several times to
contribute which I kindly refused for the above reason.

You know, writing good articles requires some talent. I know I don't have it.


>>I don't feel obliged to contribute my sources or idea's in public
>>because you choose to do so. You have chosen to make your sources
>>public and a lot of people love you for that. But you can't force
>>others to do as you do and then if they don't do that, or don't
>>do that enough in your opinion, make them look bad in public for
>>reasons which are not so clear after some consideration.
>>
>>Ed
>
>
>I am simply trying to show that progress for _all_ would go faster.  Or do
>you think that your ideas are good, but that there are no other good ideas
>to compensate you for exposing yours?  That is the issue

Oh yes, if all would open their sources we would have a super breakthrough
in computer chess.

In Holland we call this "a shot for open goal" :)

Ed




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