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Subject: Re: The Bickering Debate

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 06:13:37 10/31/99

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On October 31, 1999 at 02:12:30, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>On October 31, 1999 at 00:13:17, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On October 30, 1999 at 22:44:17, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>>
>>>On October 30, 1999 at 17:42:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 30, 1999 at 16:12:12, Pillsbury wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>I must appreciate the programmers who do a fine job of creating a grandmaster
>>>>>who waits for me round the clock, ready to play chess anytime. I even deside how
>>>>>strong he can play depending on my mood! The price I paid is very small. I must
>>>>>appreciate the commercial programmers. There is competition to make sure that
>>>>>there is contribution, improvement etc., This is the way nature works. The
>>>>>fittest will survive.
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not believe in 'free stuff' especially when I want the best!
>>>>>
>>>>>karthick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sorry you feel that way, because you are going to miss Linux, Xwindows, gcc,
>>>>and a zillion other things that are as good or better than anything you can
>>>>get commercially.
>>>>
>>>>However, there is always someone willing to take your money, so you won't
>>>>be disappointed on that front.  :)
>>>
>>>From my point of view I have nothing ahinst free stuff, I have found some handy
>>>free programs.
>>>
>>>But when it comes to chess I have always had the impression that freeware chess
>>>programs are not up to standard of commercial. This is clear in the interface,
>>>but from tourmaments that people have run, commercial program always seem to be
>>>better than freeware.
>>>
>>>Many freeware programs seem to be written more because it is a hobby. This does
>>>not include the larger companies which produce internet broswers and the such,
>>>cause they have other agendas to push.
>>>
>>>I do not use any chess program that run on winboard, cause I hate the interface.
>>>For ICC I use Blitzn.
>>>
>>>If you wrote an nice interface for your program years ago, you could have been
>>>rolling in allot of money, thats if you are not already.
>>>
>>>Mental thought dictates that Freeware is cheap in both quantity and quality.
>>
>>You don't understand the concept of freeware at all, they're not trying to be
>>"rolling in allot of money".  And the top programs that run in Winboard are far
>>from "cheap" in quality.  Crafty, Comet, and Phalanx are all high quality Chess
>>programs, the same can be said for mid strength programs like TCB and Gromit and
>>Lamb Chop and Bringer, not to mention AnMon.
>>
>>There isn't such a wide margin between the strength of the best freeware
>>programs and the best commercial programs.  The most you can really expect is to
>>get a good interface with the commercial programs and there's allot to be said
>>for that, but there's not much need to do that any more than maybee once every 5
>>or more years.
>>
>>Pete
>
>You misunderstand what I am saying. It is quite clear that the quality of
>product of Freeware programs is quite large than that of commercial. I have not
>seen a freeware program, in lets say a game that comes close to anything that
>you can but for $80 Aus.
>
>Freeware is usually much smaller and less quality, usually in the interface. Now
>you can go on all you want, but being a person who does look at a hell of allot
>of shareware and freeware. There is maybe only 3% of freeware products that are
>worth using, and this is basically only due to either, no commercial product is
>available for it, cause it is not worth making a program for the specific deed.
>Or because people want say a PIM organzer, or address book, or download manager,
>and the freeware version usually have all they need with no bells and whistles.

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