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Subject: Re: Junior ahead of Crafty in ICC!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:34:26 11/01/99

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On November 01, 1999 at 16:48:50, walter irvin wrote:

>On November 01, 1999 at 09:01:19, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 01, 1999 at 01:02:38, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On November 01, 1999 at 00:16:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 31, 1999 at 22:09:45, Jerry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Congratulations to Amir Ban's program 'ban' "Junior 5" ahead of a quad xeon
>>>>>"Crafty" in blitz rating on ICC. Incredible...
>>>>>Seems Crafty is not noplaying him anymore.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, but your "troll" is wrong.  Crafty and Ban won't play again.  Crafty's
>>>>rating dropped because I broke a couple of serious things in the eval last
>>>>weekend, one being the 'bad trade' code.  I have not felt like fooling with it
>>>>to fix it, so its rating has continued to drop, steadily.  And will likely
>>>>continue to do so until way late tonight or tomorrow some time when I fix what
>>>>is wrong.
>>>>
>>>>If you'd stop trolling, and do your homework, Crafty has been at 3100-3200
>>>>for several weeks, during which "ban" was playing it regularly.  Had no harmful
>>>>effect on its rating whatsoever.  Until I managed to break it myself.  Which I
>>>>do from time to time...
>>>>
>>>>Now back to normal fishing mode...
>>>
>>>What an arrogant tone. The man just reported data and I don't see the data
>>>itself denied. It's clearly against the charter of CCC. You should be an
>>>example instead of humiliating people.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>
>>Ed,  wake up.  This guy has "trolled" from day one.  If I sound "arrogant"
>>sorry.  But I _do_ get tired of 'trolls'.  And this was _definitely_ a troll.
>>
>>If you want to see data, simply log on to ICC, type "search crafty" and see
>>what happened to its rating over the past week+.  _without_ playing ban (
>>except for 2 games where crafty won one and drew the other.)  _then_ you will
>>have data.  And you will see that 'playing ban' has _zero_ to do with the
>>current rating drop.  _exactly_ as I said.
>
>when you fix crafty , what do you think would happen if a 6 game match  with
>junior ??? even though there would be uneven hardware at say 30 sec a move ???
>if a match like that were to happen i sure would like to see it .also i have a
>program that i would like to play against crafty . its my own program Serial
>Chess .my program is optimized for slower games . i run mine on a 386 25 mhz sx
>. but i would like to play you 1 game at 60 15 , when you have time and when you
>get it fixed .


I don't know.  For the last two weeks it was winning 2 of 3 roughly.  For the
two weeks before that it was losing about the same.  I have no idea what Amir
has broken and fixed, and only know what I have done.  So the only real way to
answer that would be a match.  However, that is not something that sits high on
my list after recent discussions here...



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