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Subject: Re: A crippled TIGER is still much better than a full strength CRAFTY :)

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 19:08:04 11/01/99

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On November 01, 1999 at 19:44:09, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 01, 1999 at 18:00:41, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On November 01, 1999 at 15:35:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On November 01, 1999 at 14:11:23, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>>>You could at least show some interest for Enrique's test and AT LEAST ask him
>>>>what he has done exactly.
>>>>
>>>>You can reject his results, but please get some information about what has been
>>>>done, so you have a basis for you claim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>
>>>If you had _any_ idea of how many results I already have to study every day.
>>>How about 50+ games vs GM/IM/computers.  _every_ day.  My results keep me
>>>saturated...
>>
>>
>>You don't have to study the games. Just ask what the settings where and point
>>out what was so incorrect that Crafty lost on superior hardware with PB handicap
>>for the opponent.
>>
>>If you think your engine had some kind of problem just ask somebody to check the
>>moves.
>>
>>Or just accept the result.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>
>I don't see how I could 'reject' the result.

OK.



>  Whether that is the same result
>I would get using my hardware is another issue.

Of course. We will try...



>  Enrique is pretty good about
>catching problems, as in the original "newgame" problem when Crafty first
>became a fritz engine.  But whether the book he used is good or not is another
>issue altogether...  Crafty plays certain types of positions well, because I
>play them well.  I try to adjust the book a bit to encourage it to play those
>openings it tends to do well with, and avoid those where it might be out of its
>element.

The same applies for Tiger. Enrique knows this and did not want the book problem
to be an artificial handicap for Crafty. That's why he has used a very small and
outdated book for Tiger.



>That is one of the reasons I don't particularly like the Fritz GUI approach to
>life, because it sits between Crafty and the outside world, and does a lot of
>things by itself...

What else except the book?



    Christophe



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