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Subject: Re: A crippled TIGER is still much better than a full strength CRAFTY :)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:30:00 11/01/99

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On November 01, 1999 at 22:08:04, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On November 01, 1999 at 19:44:09, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 01, 1999 at 18:00:41, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On November 01, 1999 at 15:35:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 01, 1999 at 14:11:23, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>(snip)
>>>
>>>>>You could at least show some interest for Enrique's test and AT LEAST ask him
>>>>>what he has done exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>>You can reject his results, but please get some information about what has been
>>>>>done, so you have a basis for you claim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If you had _any_ idea of how many results I already have to study every day.
>>>>How about 50+ games vs GM/IM/computers.  _every_ day.  My results keep me
>>>>saturated...
>>>
>>>
>>>You don't have to study the games. Just ask what the settings where and point
>>>out what was so incorrect that Crafty lost on superior hardware with PB handicap
>>>for the opponent.
>>>
>>>If you think your engine had some kind of problem just ask somebody to check the
>>>moves.
>>>
>>>Or just accept the result.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>
>>I don't see how I could 'reject' the result.
>
>OK.
>
>
>
>>  Whether that is the same result
>>I would get using my hardware is another issue.
>
>Of course. We will try...
>
>
>
>>  Enrique is pretty good about
>>catching problems, as in the original "newgame" problem when Crafty first
>>became a fritz engine.  But whether the book he used is good or not is another
>>issue altogether...  Crafty plays certain types of positions well, because I
>>play them well.  I try to adjust the book a bit to encourage it to play those
>>openings it tends to do well with, and avoid those where it might be out of its
>>element.
>
>The same applies for Tiger. Enrique knows this and did not want the book problem
>to be an artificial handicap for Crafty. That's why he has used a very small and
>outdated book for Tiger.
>
>
>
>>That is one of the reasons I don't particularly like the Fritz GUI approach to
>>life, because it sits between Crafty and the outside world, and does a lot of
>>things by itself...
>
>What else except the book?
>
>
>
>    Christophe


I don't have any idea how the Fritz interface works, so that is impossible to
answer.  Early versions were bad.  Maybe later versions are great.  I have no
way to know.  I just have little faith in windows 95/98, as it seems to be very
touchy in how it behaves and influences programs.



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