Author: Chris Duggan
Date: 12:04:13 11/02/99
Over the last few days, I've read the posts that have flown back and forwards between you and Bob. I had no particular 'side' in the debate before; as I presume is the case with most people, but some of the posts you have made are beginning to change my mind. The title of one of your posts was, 'A Crippled TIGER is still much better than a full strength CRAFTY' On reflection, don't you consider that was just a little arrogant? You later wrote... >"Now take some guy that collects all the known working algorithms,puts them all >together in a program named Crafty, and makes the sources public. >Well, that's a nice idea. Thanks a lot. It is a fine pedagogic tool." and... >"Remember, your program is at least 100 elo points behind ours. Each of us has >done at least 10 times more creative work than you have. You have spent 30 years >on this and you are still well behind." If i had done as much work on Computer Chess as Bob has, i would be _extremely_ offended by these last posts. Are you implying that he's never made anything wothwhile?? You have done _10_ times as much work as Bob? Sounds to me like your being a little arrogant again... When people criticised the tone of you 'crippled TIGER...' post, you replied... >What I find funny is that some people feel the need to tell me my post was a >little bit provocative, but these people did not open their mouth on your > "if you are implying this you are full of snot". This is a good point. There is a subtle difference between your comments and Bob's. Bob writes _'if'_. He doesn't say: Amir, you are full of snot, he says, when provoked, '_if_ you are accussing me of lying, you are full of snot. Neither does he belittle Amir or yourself, as you do in two of the abpve quotes. As I see it, and i stand to be corrected, Amir implied that Bob had intentionally programmed unsporting behaviour into Crafty, in the attempt to gain ICC rating points. This annoyed Bob. I don't believe there are many people that it wouldnt incense if the slur was addressed to them personally. In another post, you say that Bob posts in a patronising way. Surely saying... your program is at least 100 elo points behind ours. Each of us has done at least 10 times more creative work than you have. You have spent 30 years >on this and you are still well behind." is patronising to Bob?? I don't know how and if you will reply to these points. If i'm wrong about them, please correct me. I'm sure that you did not intend to create the impression that you did with me. Its probably just my problem with reading them. It seems that when arguments like this start, the bad sides of everyone are brought out. Bitterness provokes bitterness, and mis-interpretation makes this even worse. This isn't a personal attack, i just thought you might want make your views clear, if what i have written here isn't the correct interpretation.
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