Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 09:14:48 11/05/99
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On November 05, 1999 at 09:42:57, Alexander Kure wrote: >Never thought of me being a king's indian fan ;-) >When Nimzo crushed Shredder in Paderborn 98 with the Belgrade Gambit was I >supposed to be a Belgrade Gambit fan? >The truth is that the King's Indian, like the Sicilian, is an opening which >leads to unbalanced positions where the 'better' program, the program which >handles the position better, will succeed. better prepared ! but look: some programs win because they are prepared to special positions, because they KNOW something about e.g. king-attack. if i let them play in a closed game, no captures, and the opponent gives no chance to king attack by overprotecting pieces and careful keeping position close than what shall the king-attacker do? other programs outsearch the opponent. if you choose a position that is unbalanced and needs e.g. a special knowledge to handle it, and the opponent does not know about this because it normally wins with outsearching, than you have made a trap, if you recognize it or not. >If you play unbalanced positions >better be prepared for them! i prefer to choose the opening i am prepared for. and not let the opponent chose the opening HE is prepared for. why shall i give the initiative and the action to my opponent ? > If you are not prepared playing specific positions >arising after specific openings - simply do not play them. aha. i will tell this to tiger ! don't play te openings you are not prepared to play :-)) >As Computer chess programs cannot play chess it is always a challenge for me to >select openings where they will not ruin too much by playing the arising >positions. This has nothing to do with setting traps. what you call "it is always a challenge for me to select openings where" IS the trap of the thing. of course there is no primitive trap... the trap is YOU choosing an opening you call : an opening not easy to handle for programs. I expect you know how Nimzo handles it against several programs, am i right ? you have - i guess so - seen many chess-programs trying to survive with white against nimzo having black, right ? and from what you have seen you laugh and chose this opening, because you know that PRGS have problems to understand the idea. BECAUSE it is unbalanced. Because the horizont-effect damages whites efforts to defend. And therefore: simsalabim: the trap is YOU. But jeroen could have done the same thing. and i am sure he has prepared to. but he thought you would play something else. So - in the end we have a duell jeroen vs. alex. I would have preferred a game tiger - quest instead. therefore I would have thrown black early out of book and watched out what THE ENGINES play. >The game Tiger vs. Quest was a classical example of how to handle a king's >attack. To me it was the best game in the Dutch Open so far. hm. which move/position black was out of book ? What was the first computed move of quest ? When was tiger out of book ? >By the way Quest is *not* using Nimzo's opening book. I created a new one for >Fritz 6. This is the book they use in Leiden. ok. i meant that YOU decided what to play. remember your game against cstal in aegon or where it was. have forgotten. all i know is that you played kingsindian and we talked about this opening during the game or later, you remember ? I would like to see how CSTal would have played against my commercial fritz6 .... but i need to know WHEN both tiger and quest left opening books... Anyone knows WHEN ? >Greetings >Alex
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