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Subject: Re: This game is a win for ban by the chess rules

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 16:54:40 11/05/99

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On November 05, 1999 at 19:41:11, blass uri wrote:

>On November 05, 1999 at 19:11:40, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On November 05, 1999 at 18:18:20, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>For example
>>>63...Kh3 64.Kg6 g4 65.Kg5 g3 66.Bd3 Kh2 67.Kf5 g2 68.Kg4 g1=Bishop
>>>69.Kh4 Kh1 70.Kh3 Nf6 71.Ba6 Ne4 72.Bb5 Nf6 73.Bc6+
>>
>>On ICC you can't win if you only have a minor piece and your opponent runs out
>>of time.
>>
>>A graphic case is KB vs KB, where the bishops are opposite color.  ICC will call
>>this a draw even if the side to move has time and a mate in 1.
>>
>>bruce
>
>I understand that chess is not played on ICC
>
>I guess that you can win on time on ICC when you have a closed position of
>king with pawns against king and pawns when there is no legal way to win for
>both sides.
>
>If this is the case then it is another proof that the game that is played on ICC
>is not chess but something with similiar rules.

OK, let us solve this problem together and make the world perfect.  Here are
your options:

1) Allow that any game where you flag is lost.  This is not in accordance with
the rules.

2) Implement an insufficient material rule that isn't perfect.  This isn't in
accord with the rules, but it is done now.

3) Adjudicate every single case of flagging in order to see if a mate can be
constructed for the side with time remaining.  This is in accord with the rules
as you state them.

If you choose option three, you should know that there approximately 50,000
blitz games played daily, a rough estimate I just created by looking at
statistics over the last twelve hours.  There are approximately 8500 games in
the ICC database (titled players >= IM or others where both players had very
high ratings) that have been resolved with the insufficient material rule.

The human mind is a wonderful thing and has better things to do than adjudicate
possible insufficient material draws.  The current rule receives very little
complaint and allows for automatic adjudication.

bruce





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