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Subject: Re: Kasparov claims Ferret used by world team

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:36:37 11/06/99

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On November 06, 1999 at 12:22:31, Ed Panek wrote:

>On November 06, 1999 at 11:49:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 03, 1999 at 23:12:31, Richard Bean wrote:
>>
>>>http://bbs.msnbc.com/bbs/kasparov-team/posts/hj/101641.asp
>>>
>>>"... I suspect that Krush's team used a computer
>>>with computational capabilities comparable
>>>to those of ``Deep Junior''.  My guess
>>>is that it probably was american program
>>>``Ferret'' which just like ``Deep Junior''
>>>works off 4 processors.  My assumption
>>>here is based on the queen ending analysis
>>>that we've seen.  It's comparable in
>>>size and quality to ours..."
>>
>>
>>I would suspect that the 'majority' of the "world's" analysis was done by
>>Crafty. Eugene got a _bunch_ of requests to do the kqqkqq databases, which
>>he did.  I got a bunch of requests to make crafty work with them.  Which I
>>did.  The ftp site stayed busy 24 hours a day with people downloading that
>>particular file (kqqkqq).  And we were getting requests for kqpkqq and even
>>kqqpkqq and the like.
>>
>>I could tell you how many kqqkqq copies were downloaded during that time-frame
>>if you want.  People were going nuts analyzing with it.  And I heard from more
>>than one that was using a quad (or better) machine for the 'world team'....
>>
>
>  As a member of the Computer Chess team I can tell you that initially the match
>used several programs from Cm to Hiarcs 7.32 to Crafty....then as the ending
>drew near. crafty was used more often
>
>Ed


actually I worded that pretty poorly.  I should have said "once the
position reached 7 pieces on the board (kqp vs kqpp) I think the most-used
program was crafty, because of the 6 piece databases...





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>>>
>>>Hey, is that true?  I've seen LOTS of
>>>people ask ``When is Ferret going to be
>>>sold to the public''... perhaps it needs
>>>a web page detailing the predicted release date,
>>>and then have the web page address added to
>>>some CCC FAQ.  The "message ferret on ICC" system leaves
>>>the date quite uncertain...
>>>The other thing is that I found the mate in 25
>>>announcement from Deep Junior after 62...Qc6+ 63. Kg5 quite
>>>incredible.  I had crafty with 768Mb hash & 486Mb egtb
>>>cache run for 96 hours on that position KQQKQQ + 5 piece TBs, no mate,
>>>just failing low with a +9.96 eval for White.
>>>I suspect that Deep Junior had "63...Qd5+ 64. Qf5"
>>>added to the position as well.
>>>
>>>(since DJ allegedly had 512Mb of RAM, and the computer
>>>I was using only benched at ~135000 NPS.  Still,
>>>the large amount of hash should make up for it.)



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