Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 09:38:39 11/06/99
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On November 04, 1999 at 06:58:09, Marc Plum wrote: >Just before the excerpt that you quote, there is the following: >SE: And who was behind the name of Kasparov? > >GK: It was me,Yuri Dohoian , Boris Alterman and also >"Deep Junior" >which was mostly active in the queen ending... It's a >great >Israeli machine. > >So it isn't like GK is blaming the world for using a computer (if they did). He >seems to be taking the use of computers in correspondence games for granted. I >find this, and his use of other human analysts, somewhat disappointing, but that >is the way chess is today. Of course, if he was wrong about what computer the >World was using (I believe Bruce Moreland's denial), then he may have been wrong >about them using a computer at all. > >Also, he mentions the key mistakes in the ending, Black's 51st and 58th moves, >but doesn't reconcile this with his theory of a computer being used in the >ending. > >Marc Plum I believe that at least one case of 'web incompetence' resulted in the world playing a move that went from a draw to a dead loss, as pointed out by the world team's primary "GM" player... > >On November 03, 1999 at 23:12:31, Richard Bean wrote: > >>http://bbs.msnbc.com/bbs/kasparov-team/posts/hj/101641.asp >> >>"... I suspect that Krush's team used a computer >>with computational capabilities comparable >>to those of ``Deep Junior''. My guess >>is that it probably was american program >>``Ferret'' which just like ``Deep Junior'' >>works off 4 processors. My assumption >>here is based on the queen ending analysis >>that we've seen. It's comparable in >>size and quality to ours..." >> >>Hey, is that true? I've seen LOTS of >>people ask ``When is Ferret going to be >>sold to the public''... perhaps it needs >>a web page detailing the predicted release date, >>and then have the web page address added to >>some CCC FAQ. The "message ferret on ICC" system leaves >>the date quite uncertain... >>The other thing is that I found the mate in 25 >>announcement from Deep Junior after 62...Qc6+ 63. Kg5 quite >>incredible. I had crafty with 768Mb hash & 486Mb egtb >>cache run for 96 hours on that position KQQKQQ + 5 piece TBs, no mate, >>just failing low with a +9.96 eval for White. >>I suspect that Deep Junior had "63...Qd5+ 64. Qf5" >>added to the position as well. >> >>(since DJ allegedly had 512Mb of RAM, and the computer >>I was using only benched at ~135000 NPS. Still, >>the large amount of hash should make up for it.)
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