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Subject: Re: Again Autoplayers: ChessTiger12-Fritz6: +4 =1 -0

Author: blass uri

Date: 01:14:09 11/07/99

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On November 06, 1999 at 17:52:42, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On November 06, 1999 at 17:33:52, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>What excuses can you bring why Tiger is not leading in the Netherlands?
>
>There is no need for "excuses".
>Look in the games if you have the power to play chess yourself.
>Against quest and the king tiger trapped into a "trap".
>harald. what is your problem ?
>my autoplayer says now +5 =2 -0 against fritz6.
>these are 400 Mhz equal machines and 40/120 games.
>
>
>>Uh, much
>>worse, even behind Fritz...
>
>it is not fritz. it is quest. fritz6 is matthias feist code.
>quest is frans morsch.
>fritz6 uses (small portions of) knowledge, frans relies on search depth and nps.

I think that if you have too many nps you cannot search very deep because you do
not know which lines to prune or extend.

I do not believe that frans relies on nps because I do not believe that you can
win by this (even if you have 2 processors because part of the opponents have
also more than one processor).
I guess that he found some program tricks to see more nps with the same
knowledge and good opening preperation(not nps) also helped him but it is not
only good opening preperation.

quest falled into a trap in the game against patzer
pazter knew that Quest does not know to play the early opening well and
caused it to play the positional mistake 3...Qd6 but inspite of this mistake
quest could win the game.

I do not say that quest is the best in positional understanding but
I believe that the claim that it relies on search depth and nps is wrong

Uri


>
>
>>let me guess at least for Fritz: it is
>>multiprocessor.
>
>right. 2 cpu's.
>
>
>>But what about Nimzo7.32 (still my favorite, go for it, Nimzo!)
>>and the King?
>
>I don't know. tiger did not lose a game or?
>it ran into a trap against the king and against quest.
>i have not looked into the other games so far.
>it is a big mistake to prepare openings the opponent can lead you into a
>position HE can force you to react, but you cannot act!
>
>a tournament is different than autoplayer games.
>here not each round is dominated by preparation before each game.
>here the machines are equal.
>
>imo you have a problem. when i say A you have to say not (A) to have
>a point.
>
>ok - this was your NOT (A) .



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