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Subject: Re: chess programer

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:23:32 11/07/99

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On November 07, 1999 at 23:17:28, James Swafford wrote:

>On November 07, 1999 at 21:09:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>
>>
>>Lang may have dominated the micro programs.. but he _never_ dominated computer
>>chess.  The 'program to beat' went like this:
>>
>>1960-1970   MacHack (Greenblatt)
>>1970-1977   chess x.x (slate)
>>1977-1979   chess x.x and belle (slate/thompson)
>>1980-1982   Belle/Chess x.x/Cray Blitz (slate, thompson, hyatt)
>>1983-1986   Cray Blitz
>>1987-present deep thought/deep blue (Hsu)
>>
>>No other programs were close during those time periods, if you talk about
>>'micro programs'.
>>
>>But as far as folks like "lang" go, how much have they _contributed_ to computer
>>chess?  _zero_.
>>
>>Slate wrote the 4.0 article in Chess Skill in Man and Machine, the article that
>>became the blueprint for _every_ program written.  Iterated search, hashing,
>>killer moves, tip evaluation, etc.  The other names I mentioned did the same.
>>
>>I look at who 'creates' ideas and then passes them along to others to be
>>improved/modified/changed/etc.  And I look at who produced _results_.  It is
>>difficult to argue with the history of computer chess back to the early 60's,
>>as the data I gave above can be found in most any good book...
>>
>>
>
>[snip]
>
>By this reasoning, you belong on your own list. :-)
>I still think you are being modest.
>
>--
>James


I might have a place on that list, but not in front of any of the 4 names I
gave...



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