Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 21:53:55 11/07/99
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On November 07, 1999 at 21:53:50, Pillsbury wrote:
>On November 07, 1999 at 14:08:59, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>
>>Thorsten, don't lose your time with Harald and Pillsbury. They are trying
>>childishly to make a point with a small number of games.
>>
>>Looks that they have a problem with Tiger, I don't know why...
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>
>
>I have no problem with the program.....I do not have it anyway!
>I have no problem with the programmer.....as I believe that commercial
>programmers do a great job.....and Tiger will be for sale soon( If you remember
>my posting about Tiger, you should also remember my posting about Freeware.)
>
>I just do have problem about a program building up momentum before even it is
>released and proven in several areas like computer versus computer ( for which
>it is specially prepared), against humans, database, interface, customer service
>etc., etc.,
>
>I consider 'Time' as the best test against anything! If 'Tiger' stands the test
>of time I will much appreciate the program. You will see me posting
>'Congratulations' wishes to Tiger. You keep up the good work. And it will speak
>for itself. There would not be any need for 'support' and you would not care
>about opposition.
>
>I am pretty sure people who follow my thoughts will be benefitted as far as
>'Time' and 'Money' are concerned.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>karthick
This is a sensible post from you.
I want to repeat one more time that Tiger is not specialised against computers.
I don't have many of the top commercial programs, and I don't use most of the
one I have. For example I don't have Nimzo, CM6000, Shredder, Hiarcs, MChess.
If I really wanted to specialize against computer programs, do you think I could
do without these?
I do have Fritz5.32 and Junior5 (Matthias Wüllenweber from ChessBase sent them
to me several months ago). Junior is not installed on my computers (I had to
remove it shortly after having installed it), and I have reinstalled Fritz5.32
just yesterday. It had been removed from my computer several weeks ago when I
reinstalled Windows95.
I don't spend my time autoplaying Tiger against other commercial programs. I
have other means of testing my program. For the release of version 12.0 I have
autoplayed against Genius5 and Fritz2 on 486dx2-66 to make sure that my Auto232
support was working. I did several 40 games match just AFTER the release because
some testers had problems with Auto232 (I had no time to test before the program
was released, I'm not especially proud of this).
I hope you are not going to call this specialization against computers.
Against humans, the last game was played in simultaneous game against Joel
Lautier (2638) and Tiger won.
I want to add immediately that I'm not claiming that this game is a proof.
That's only one game, and has no more meaning that the result of a tournament
played on few rounds. See what I mean?
I have no recent data against humans, but as I said before, Tiger has been
developped over the years by playing on a regular basis in my (human) chess club
on very slow hardware (286-12MHz then 386sx-20MHz).
About customer service and support, the very fact that all the people in the
REBEL-TIGER team (Ed Schröder, Jeroen Noomen, Lex Loep and Christophe Theron)
post on this forum, and in other places, should tell you something about what
our intentions are.
Further, Schröder BV is a well known company that has always provided good
customer support as far as I know.
About the interface and database management, I would say that it is not totally
new. The REBEL-TIGER is going to use an improved version of the ChessPartner
interface, which is a solid, clean, Windows9x-compliant GUI. If you want to have
a preview of Tiger's interface, you can download ChessPartner4.2 from the
Lokasoft site.
http://www.lokasoft.nl/
As for the "test of time", I absolutely agree with you. And I do believe Tiger
will pass this test. I'm working on my program since 1982, Ed has been working
in computer chess for longer, and the company has several years of experience in
marketing computer chess products.
The momentum that has been built up on Tiger just comes from the people that
have tested it and reported results here. I'm not going to say I'm unhappy with
it, but on the other hand, can you remember the last time a new strong program
entered the scene?
It does not happen every month.
Christophe
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