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Subject: Re: too many religious fanatics here :-))

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 05:33:29 11/08/99

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On November 08, 1999 at 07:50:07, blass uri wrote:

>On November 08, 1999 at 07:33:41, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>On November 08, 1999 at 05:48:32, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>No problems, I simply cannot believe Tiger being 100pts over the rest.
>>>
>>>a person who BELIEVES or not believes without having any data himself
>>>is a religious person. he has nothing else than prejudices.
>>>it is ONE thing to have prejudices, but IMO another thing to defend
>>>prejudices the way YOU do it.
>>>
>>>As a communist i prefer to talk about programs i have, to talk
>>>about data i have outplayed on my own machines.
>>>And i guess Markus Kaestner would say the same. He HAS
>>>outplayed CM6 vs. Tiger as he told you.
>>>Still you do not believe , he ?
>>
>>I have never heard of his results.
>>
>>>I don't need to "believe" anything. I want to KNOW by facts.
>>>
>>>so - believe or not believe whatever you want.
>>>build a Haralf Faber church of NON-believers.
>>>
>>>its ok for me. but don't call what you do anything other than
>>>religious fanatics, it is not based on facts, it is based
>>>on prejudices. And you are even proud to have prejudices.
>>
>>It is based on facts and on experience. Facts like Paderborn and the NL-Ch.
>>PUBLIC games and PUBLIC played!
>>And experience that no amateur entered the scene 100pts above since I follow
>>computerchess some years ago.
>
>I guess that chesstiger is going to be number 1 in the ssdf list.
>I guess the difference will be less than 100 elo but more than 30 elo.

After the few hundred games played and posted by different people, I think it
will be just about 30 points better than the second.

Enrique

>If you look at the results of the ssdf list you can see that the results of
>tiger are better than other programs.
>
>I do not count tournament like paderborn and the NL-ch because opening
>preperation is more important in these tournament relative to ssdf games and I
>count only the results of the ssdf.
>
>I did not calculate the exact performance of chesstiger but I see that the
>performance of tiger against Fritz3(p90) and fritz532(p200) is clearly more than
>2700 and it played many games against them.
>
>It had a slow start against shredder2(p200) but now it starts to win
>I guess it will be the first program with more than 2700 ssdf rating.
>
>Uri



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