Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 06:20:51 11/08/99
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On November 08, 1999 at 04:06:46, blass uri wrote: >On November 08, 1999 at 02:40:46, Dave Gomboc wrote: > >>On November 07, 1999 at 21:02:40, James T. Walker wrote: >> >>>On November 07, 1999 at 17:17:18, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On November 07, 1999 at 15:58:54, odell hall wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 07, 1999 at 10:32:38, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 07, 1999 at 03:23:21, Lawrence S. Tamarkin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Bob, On the other hand, you could be like Bobby Fischer when asked for his list >>>>>>>of the 10 greatest player's, he was asked why he hadn't included himself on this >>>>>>>list; the answer of course was that he would best any of them, so felt it would >>>>>>>take away a placing of one of his selected 10:) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Larry T >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Nah... I just had the opportunity to get to know everyone on my "list" >>>>>>pretty well (excepting Greenblatt although I talked to him several times >>>>>>by phone). They are head-and-shoulders above me or anyone else I could >>>>>>think of. :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If they are "head and shoulders" above everyone then why haven't they produced >>>>>any quality chess programs in the last 15 years? (excluding ofcourse hsu) It >>>>>seems to me the people you list are more or less pioneers in computerchess, but >>>>>does this mean that they are the best? Because someone was first does this mean >>>>>that they are neccesarily the best? I think 1. Hsu 2. Lang 3. Jonothan Dekoning >>>>>(king engine) 3. Schroeder is more appropriate to the question. Or would you >>>>>mind educating us specifically on what makes these people you mentioned better >>>>>than others? >>>> >>>> >>>>Nothing other than the fact that they each _dominated_ computer chess when >>>>they were active _and_ they published details about what they did. >>>> >>>>Any other questions? >>> >>>Hello Bob, >>>But wasn't that because they had access to the fastest hardware at the time and >>>there was very little competition? The same might be said of Cray Blitz which >>>was much faster than say Sargon 2.5 on a 6502 @ 2Mhz. >>>Jim Walker >> >>"Had access"? Greenblatt built his hardware! So did Thompson. So does Hsu. > >Do you say that they did not have access to some secret knowledge how to build >the hardware? > >Uri Nope... the 'knowledge' was available in _any_ electrical engineering program at any university with an engineering program. Nothing 'secret' at all. And they even revealed _exactly_ what they did, after they did it. Ken talked about his "PLA(FPGA)" implementation several times.
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