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Subject: Re: chess programer

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:35:11 11/08/99

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On November 08, 1999 at 14:27:35, Alexander Kure wrote:

>On November 07, 1999 at 21:09:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
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>
>>Lang may have dominated the micro programs.. but he _never_ dominated computer
>>chess.  The 'program to beat' went like this:
>>
>>1960-1970   MacHack (Greenblatt)
>>1970-1977   chess x.x (slate)
>>1977-1979   chess x.x and belle (slate/thompson)
>>1980-1982   Belle/Chess x.x/Cray Blitz (slate, thompson, hyatt)
>>1983-1986   Cray Blitz
>>1987-present deep thought/deep blue (Hsu)
>>
>>No other programs were close during those time periods, if you talk about
>>'micro programs'.
>
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>
>Hi Bob,
>
>I think that your last sentence neglects the fact that Fritz 3 running on a
>Pentium 90 MhZ beat Deep Thought in Hongkong 1995. After this 'disgraceful'
>event the  micros took the lead over the mainframes.
>
>Greetings
>Alex


You _really_ believe that?  They lost two whole games to other computer
programs during a 12 year span of time, and they were 'taken over'???

I wish you had a chance to try on Cray Blitz at 7M nodes per second.  You
might discover that it is _not_ exactly a patzer.  And it isn't close to
deep blue either... based on games _actually_ played vs them.  For every
micro win over a 'mainframe' someone can dredge up 10 losses to mainframes.

I don't think the gap has closed at all... it has spread further, because the
micro computers of today are _nowhere_ near the supercomputers of 5 years ago.
In raw computing speed or any other measure...

And the micros aren't even in the same rating pool with deep blue.



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