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Subject: Re: chess programer

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 17:25:12 11/08/99

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On November 08, 1999 at 20:03:06, walter irvin wrote:
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>i have no doubt that you are a highly skilled programmer . but my only thing is
>i cant help thinking that the best programmers such as yourself and others
>stoped looking at new ways of solving the same problems that have not gone away
>in computer chess .

What makes you think that the search for new ways has stopped?  If that were the
case, I do not think that this forum would even exist.  You must also understand
the old ways before you even know if your "new way" is really new at all.

>there is a saying that says if you keep doing what you are
>doing you will keep getting what you are getting .
Profound. ;-)

> i have been working on a program ,that is very different , but since i lack
>your programming skills , what should take 2 or 3 months is taking much longer .
>but on the other hand you have had 30 years and you have done more than most
>even with a world champion to your credit .but even you will admit that you have
>not done what you really wanted .surely you want stronger than GM level for your
>programs .you have to be a little dissapointed that even with the power of the
>computers now , people still rule chess .
The MIPS of a human brain is about 10^23 operations per second.  A honey bee's
brain can manage 10 GFlops.  For a computer program on a standard CPU to even
approach the power of a poor player is truly astonishing.  That programs like
crafty can be a difficult opponent for a GM is nothing short of remarkable.
That systems like Deep Blue can give the best player in the world a hard time is
nothing short of miraculous.

Joe has a 4000HP dragster with 600 cubic inches displacement and a tank of
nitromethane fuel.  You have a go-cart.  Somehow, the go-cart can compete.  Must
be pretty well engineered, that go-cart.



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