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Subject: Re: Nunn test

Author: blass uri

Date: 05:05:30 11/09/99

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On November 09, 1999 at 07:44:23, Frank Schubert wrote:

>On November 09, 1999 at 06:41:16, blass uri wrote:
>
>
>>
>>The nunn match is also not the right way to decide about the level of chess
>>programs.
>>
>>The main problem is that the positions are known.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>Hi Uri,
>
>You cannot compare the Nunn-Test with simple positional tests.
>Please show me one programmer who is able to tune his program
>for the Nunn-test WITHOUT increasing the general playing strength. If he is
>able to do that, he will produce a better chess program. That's one of
>the main ideas of the Nunn test. Another important point is that it's
>not possible to suppress games. So I think that the Nunn test is a very
>accurate indicator of playing strength within the 20 games limit.
>But of course 20 games are not much, and therefore results like 9-11 or
>even 13-7 do not really show which program is definitely the best.

I think that it is not so hard to do it.

You can change the piece square tables based on the opening  and it will only
change the level of the program in the opening but will not increase the general
level of the program.

I believe that you can create a different chessmaster personality for every nunn
position and improve the result of chessmaster in the nunn positions.

I did not try to do it because it was not important for me(I have nothing to
earn by doing it).

Some programs today can learn by position(Hiarcs) and you can give them to play
nunn position games and learn from them and use the knowledge in future games.

I do not say that programmers tune their program for the nunn positions by an
opening proccesor or by learning but the point is that I believe that it is
possible to do it.

I also think that the positions in the nunn match are more tactical and the
changes in the evaluation are bigger relative to regular games but I did not
investigate it so I am not sure about it.

Uri




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