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Subject: Re: Rebel/Hiarcs - let's introduce Tiger

Author: Tina Long

Date: 05:51:20 11/11/99

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On November 11, 1999 at 08:17:14, Eelco de Groot wrote:


>Probably not advisable for rapid or blitz, I am thinking now, making PAWN>100
>would lead to a more tactical game and would go well with other measures that
>decrease knowledge to increase speed ? All just ideas to be tried out of course,
>if anyone feels like it..
>
> But tactics remain more than 90%, I'm sure, of
>>the game.
>
>That is in human-human games, for us playing against computers the percentage is
>probably even higher..
>
> Unfortunately not my strong point, tactics...
>>
>>Eelco

Therein lies my concern with Tiger.  From what I hear it searches very deep &
very quick.  I think that is why it is doing so well in Computer-computer games.
 From the results I've seen here it may well top the SSDF  (& on that subject
Fritz is getting some ordinary results lately.)

I suspect Tiger is winning by being 97% tactics, and finding the deep tricky
bits in the 2-3 minutes per move, where it's opponents would see those tricky
bits if they could have 8-10 minutes per move.

Richard Lang & Genius 3 were on top of the SSDF in the 486/66 days, but slipped
away (only a bit mind you) from the top as processor speeds increased.

I wasn't keen on the RebelTiger aspect of Rebel10c, and was back with Rebel10b
before Ed was recommending that step.  But I can't explain what I didn't like
about it's moves, I just thought "urk" sometimes when Rebel10b or Hiarcs more
often made me say "bugger".

Tiger looks like being the newest tactical & blitz monster, but how good will it
be against Humans.

We'll never definitely know, because humans are fallible and some humans are
anti-computer experts.  And the sample size will never get large enough before
the next increment of a program is released.

I prefer a program that is slow & thinks about its moves, especcially nowdays
when the fast processors offset the slowness.  That's why my interest, and
thanks Jerone for heading us this way, in Hiarcs7 (or 732) versus RebelCentury
knowledge=500.

Hi guys,





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