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Subject: Re: Program bug or Autoplayer woes?

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 17:27:45 11/12/99

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On November 12, 1999 at 11:54:32, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On November 12, 1999 at 04:01:39, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>
>>On November 12, 1999 at 02:00:32, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On November 11, 1999 at 20:18:18, Howard Exner wrote:
>>>
>>>>Here's the game which ended in a draw.[Event "SSDF 40-2"]
>>>>[Site "DK-Albertslund"]
>>>>[Date "1999.11.10"]
>>>>[Round "23"]
>>>>[White "Chess Tiger 12.0 dos K6-2 450,64"]
>>>>[Black "Shredder 2 P200MMX 24+8"]
>>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>>[WhiteElo "2645"]
>>>>[BlackElo "2503"]
>>>>[Annotator "Test: HC Lykke"]
>>>>
>>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 d6 3. f4 Nc6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Bb5 e6 6. Bxc6+
>>>>bxc6 7. d3 Be7 8. e5 Nd5 9. Ne4 dxe5 10. Nxe5 Bb7 11. O-O
>>>>O-O 12. Qe2 f6 13. Nc4 Ba6 14. Bd2 Nb6 15. Na5 Qd7 16. Be3
>>>>Na4 17. Qf2 c4 18. b3 f5 19. Nd2 cxd3 20. bxa4 Bb4 21. Nab3
>>>>dxc2 22. Rfe1 Rad8 23. a3 Bc3 24. Nc5 Qe7 25. Nxa6 Bxa1 26.
>>>>Rxa1 Qxa3 27. Qe1 Qc3 28. Rc1 Rd3 29. Kf2 Qb2 30. Nc4 Qa2
>>>>31. Ne5 Rd1 32. Qc3 Rxc1 33. Bxc1 Qxa4 34. Nc5 Qa2 35. Ncd7
>>>>Re8 36. Qxc6 Rd8 37. Qc7 Ra8 38. Qb7 Rf8 39. Nxf8 Qa5 40.
>>>>Qf7+ Kh8 41. Nxe6 Qb6+ 42. Kg3 Qb3+ 43. Kf2 Qb6+ 44. Ke2
>>>>Qa6+ 45. Kf2 Qb6+ 1/2-1/2
>>>>
>>>>Would the game end the same from move 41 on if it were manually played?
>>>
>>>Rebel-Tiger (beta) plays of course 43.Kh4 announcing mate in 3.
>>>
>>>No 45.Kf2??? also but 45.Ke3 announcing mate in 5.
>>>
>>>Perhaps something is wrong with the PGN moves?
>>>
>>>Even in the end-position Rebel-Tiger (beta) still announces a
>>>mate.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>Hi!
>>
>>In one of my testgames Tiger used 30(!!) moves for a simple mate in 4 or 5
>>moves. Tiger won the game but  after 10-15 moves with the same announcement mate
>>in 4 or 5 I began to wonder if it should be a draw according to the 50-moves
>>rule.
>>
>>Bertil SSDF
>
>
>I have to say my 'mea culpa' here.
>
>The problem was not the engine in this case but the time manager.
>
>I have noticed during the French Championship last year that Tiger could spend a
>long time before playing an obvious mate. In fact a mate move was considered as
>any other move, so Tiger took his time to play it. This means probably one or
>two minutes in a long time controls game.
>
>I thought that this was very bad manners for the opponent, so I decided to make
>it more "elegant" and change the time management.
>
>The new version stopped to search as soon as a mate in X move was found. So in
>this case it moved instantly.
>
>Great. But it is a bloody mistake. What happens? First, Tiger finds a mate in,
>say, 5 moves. So it stops and announces "mate in 5". Then, on the next move, the
>first mate it finds is a mate in 6. So it stupidly stopped and announced a mate
>in 6, and was happy with it.
>
>This could be an infinite cycle, Tiger announcing mates in several moves, but
>never actually checkmating the opponent.
>
>I have discovered this (old) bug on Nov 2, 1999, and it is now FIXED. The
>current beta version does NOT have the bug, and that's why Ed cannot reproduce
>it.
>
>Thanks to Howard Exner for pointing this out.
>
>
>
>    Christophe


I'm sure happy to 'hear' that's fixed.  I'm waiting impatiently :-)  for Chess
Tiger to hit the streets.  By the way, I got a glimpse of it on FICS and it is
impressive.  It seems like people/computers were standing in line to play it.
Jim Walker



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