Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 23:49:54 11/12/99
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>Posted by Bruce Moreland on November 12, 1999 at 22:22:30: > >In Reply to: How about a computer tournament on ICC ? posted by Peter >Kappler on November 12, 1999 at 21:01:53: > >On November 12, 1999 at 21:01:53, Peter Kappler wrote: > >> >>This idea came out of a discussion from a different thread, but I thought I'd >>start fresh: >> >>Here's a question for all the programmers: How many of you would play in an >>online tourney at ICC, and what factors would influence your decision? It's a wonderful idea, count me in. >>For me it would be: >> >>number (and quality) of the participants >>time control >>number of rounds >> >>My personal preference would be to play at G/90, and to limit the number of >>rounds so the event could be completed in a weekend. My idea: make it a competition that goes on for years, if not forever. G90 games are fine to me. Problem: how many games to play (say) in a month. 2 is fine with me, more games a month and I might pass. I guess this will be different for everybody. >>I suspect that many of the programs from Will's "Green List" would show >>up, but >>I wonder if Crafty, Ferret, Diep, or any of the commercial programs would >>play? >>Nothing to gain, perhaps? Maybe the ICC would sweeten the pot with a small >>prize fund? Perhaps if ICC promoted the event, the publicity would make >>it more >>interesting for the commercial programs. Commercials will show up if the competition becomes well known. I would be willing to promote such an event by my pages if the setup is good. I am pretty sure the ICC will cooperate too if the whole thing has a future. >>Would cheating be a concern? I pretty much trust all the programmers, but do >>others feel differently? It's not only a matter of trust between the programmers. To make such a competition a success and credible for everybody every form of possible cheats should be covered. An idea could be to take the conditions of the GM-challenge as a base and perhaps improve it. Bottom line: avoid postings implying possible cheats. If such postings have a point you ruin a nice idea. >>I'm interested in hearing everyone's opinion. It's a shame that we have this >>fantastic public arena for online chess that has never been used to stage a >>formal computer chess event... >> >>--Peter > >I'd be willing to let my program play. I can use the quad 450, a pentium pro >200, or if I'm given enough advanced notice, a single processor 450. I don't >care which. > >A uniform event would be hard to arrange, but if I happen to have the right >hardware, fine with me. An unequal hardware event would be fine with me. >I do not want an event where hardware is handicapped, that sucks. > >I would rather that the event be a serious event, one that receives some >amount of promotion, rather than an ad-hoc event with zero spectators and >participants who drop out after round 3 and want back in for round 7. It should be a programmers competition IMO. >I would like to use my automatic interface, but if that is not allowed I would >be somewhat hesitant but would probably still participate. > >I would like there to be some rules set up beforehand, and I would like there >either to be a competent tournament director, or to structure the event such >that we don't need one. We definitely need a tournament director. Ed >I don't want to deal with an event where programs are entered by people other >than authors, I don't want to play against some kid's copy of Fritz. If it >is a manual tournament, I will be entering the moves for my program, and the guy >entering moves on the other needs to have written the engine of the program >that I'm playing against, either that or he needs to be evidently present. To >spend this kind of time is a hardship, and the hardship is mitigated if everyone is >there together taking part. > >I would not be worried about cheating, but I would like the rules to be >explicit so that people don't cheat by accident. > >bruce
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