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Subject: Re: How about a computer tournament on ICC ?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:02:40 11/13/99

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On November 13, 1999 at 11:11:56, blass uri wrote:

>On November 13, 1999 at 09:34:01, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 13, 1999 at 04:02:07, Alexander Kure wrote:
>>
>>>On November 12, 1999 at 22:04:00, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 12, 1999 at 21:01:53, Peter Kappler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>This idea came out of a discussion from a different thread, but I thought I'd
>>>>>start fresh:
>>>>>
>>>>>Here's a question for all the programmers:  How many of you would play in an
>>>>>online tourney at ICC, and what factors would influence your decision?
>>>>>
>>>>>For me it would be:
>>>>>
>>>>>number (and quality) of the participants
>>>>>time control
>>>>>number of rounds
>>>>>
>>>>>My personal preference would be to play at G/90, and to limit the number of
>>>>>rounds so the event could be completed in a weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>>I suspect that many of the programs from Will's "Green List" would show up, but
>>>>>I wonder if Crafty, Ferret, Diep, or any of the commercial programs would play?
>>>>>Nothing to gain, perhaps?  Maybe the ICC would sweeten the pot with a small
>>>>>prize fund?  Perhaps if ICC promoted the event, the publicity would make it more
>>>>>interesting for the commercial programs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>'crafty' would certainly play..  Can't speak for the others..
>>>>
>>>>But I suspect that commercial programs would avoid such an event, because
>>>>of little to gain and everything to lose...  IE it is a rare WMCCC event that
>>>>gets most commercial programs to come.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Come on Bob! Don't be preoccupied! As far as Nimzo is concerned it will play and
>>>I think many of the other commercial programms would also like to participate.
>>>
>>
>>
>>I'm not 'preoccupied'.  I was simply pointing out that getting all the
>>commercial programs into a tournament hasn't happened in a long time, to the
>>best of my knowledge.  There was a long-standing tradition that the 'last
>>winner' didn't play in the next tournament, for example.
>
>I do not know about this tradition
>
>Junior won WMCCC and it did not stop to play in tournaments.
>Fritz won WCCC and it did not stop to play in tournaments.
>
>Both programs played in the last wccc.
>
>You are right that part of the commercial did not play in tournaments but they
>had to pay more money to play relative to the amatures.
>playing in an online tourney at ICC is more easy(you do not have to travel and
>you do not have to pay a lot of money) so I expect more commercial to play.
>
>Uri


Check past ACM/WCCC events.  There was _no_ entry fee for those events, so
that wasn't an issue.  It was more about 'marketing' than anything else.  Yes
there are/were exceptions.  There were also plenty of non-exceptions.



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