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Subject: Re: Rough framework for an ICC Computer Championship

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 23:31:08 11/13/99

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On November 13, 1999 at 18:39:07, Peter Kappler wrote:

Hi Pete,

Sounds good, though I'll have to get that cpu upgrade I've been eyeing.  And I
might have to add that wrong-color bishop with a/h pawn too.

As to your guidelines, I like the G/60 with a 10 sec increment.  It's a shame to
have to limit it to 8 rounds, but I understand the fatigue factor.  It might be
good to do it this way for the first time.  As for the timing, I would think in
order to get a good turnout you'd have to schedule it for January at the
earliest.  I, for example, don't have much time between now and new year's.  And
I don't think you need an ICC TD, you could just do it yourself.  Not too hard.

You might also want to consider billing this as a prelim to a human/computer
tourney.  Say, the top 5 or 6 finishers play a like number of human volunteers.
You'd have to get a few folks signed on first, of course.

I'm on the west coast.

Will

p.s. I tried to get the ICC people into this about a year ago without success.
I think they weren't into the amateur program idea, I don't know.  I'm glad you
got somebody interested.  However, now you get to organize it. :)


>
>Thanks to all of you who responded to my previous post.  I'm pleasantly
>surprised by the positive reaction so far.  Based on the responses, a few
>guidelines for this tournament seem clear:
>
>1) Only one entry per program.  The operator must be the author, or a person
>directly appointed by the author.
>
>2) Open platform.  There is simply no way to enforce uniform hardware.
>
>3) A time control somewhere between G/60 and G/90, with a small (<10 sec) time
>increment per move.
>
>4) A Swiss pairing system.  Looks like there will be too many participants for
>any form of round robin.
>
>One of the more complex issues is how many rounds, and what time of day to play.
> One drawback of holding a tournament online is that the participants are
>scattered across different time zones. This means the rounds must be timed
>carefully, so we aren't playing games at the crack of dawn in the West, or late
>at night in the East.
>
>Almost all of the participants live between GMT-8 and GMT+1.  This spans the
>west coast of the USA to Germany, I think.  I'm only aware of two potential
>participants who fall outside of this windows:  Amir Ban, in Israel, and Peter
>McKenzie in New Zealand.  (Peter has already said he can handle a few late
>nights for a good tourney...)
>
>If we played 60+10, then each round would easily finish in under 3 hours, and we
>could play two games per day without much trouble.  The early round could start
>at 1700 GMT, and the late round would start at 2000 GMT, finishing at around
>2300 GMT.  A bit late in Europe, but not too bad.  A 90+10 time control is also
>doable, it just means starting at 1600 GMT, and finishing around midnight GMT.
>
>The bottom line is that we can probably only manage 2 rounds per day, so I think
>we'd need to play for two weekends, which would be 8 total rounds.
>
>I'd like to hear some discussion on the issues of time controls and start times.
> It might be useful to compile a list of the time zones where we all live.  (I'm
>in US Pacific: GMT-8)
>
>
>On to other issues:
>
>It seems likely that we can get ICC to promote this event.  Peter McKenzie and I
>had a conversation with an ICC admin this morning - he's interested in this
>idea.  ICC would probably want to call it the "ICC Computer Championship", which
>seems appropriate.  ICC could also probably supply one or two admins to act as
>tournament directors.  It's possible that we could use one of the automated ICC
>"tomato" bots to generate pairings, but I'm not sure how we'd deal with first
>round seedings...
>
>Another question is when should event should take place?  I don't have strong
>feelings about this, except that I think we need to allow enough time for people
>to free up two weekends, plus it would be nice to give time for word to spread
>about the tournament. Finally, many of us would want time to prepare for such an
>event.  My feeling is that it shouldn't take place before the end of December.
>Christmas Day and New Years Day both fall on a Saturday this year - those
>weekends are probably out of the question.  The ICC admin I spoke with said he
>would prefer not to have this coincide with the Wijk aan Zee super-GM
>tournament, which he thought was sometime in January.
>
>The timing of the event isn't too important to me, except that I wouldn't want
>to rush it.  What do others think?
>
>I can think of some other technical issues, like how to handle the case where
>someone loses their internet connection in the middle of the round.  How has
>this been handled at computer events in the past?
>
>A final note:  A few of you posted that you'd prefer an event that was held over
>a longer period of time, where the round times weren't necessarily fixed, and
>the participants could schedule games on their own.  My experience is that these
>events lose their appeal after a few weeks.  It's hard to keep the interest
>level high over a longer period of time.
>
>As always, I welcome feedback.  I'm sure I've missed some issues, too.  When we
>think we have everything worked out, we can start serious discussions with the
>people at ICC.
>
>--Peter



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