Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:05:02 11/14/99
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On November 14, 1999 at 01:20:54, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On November 14, 1999 at 00:52:09, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>I think that it ought to be handled as follows: If the 'disconnector' >>can show that it was a network problem, the game ought to be continued as >>soon as possible, just so the next round isn't delayed. The network is >>very complex, and the northeast can become _very_ congested early in the >>evening. The network has to be thought of as the facilitator for this >>event, not something that makes it impossible to pull off. Simple way to >>handle this is that each participant must supply (in their finger notes) >>the IP address of their gateway (ISP) machine. If they get disconnected, >>and we can ping the ISP, then they get penalized for the amount of time >>they are 'offline'. If the ISP can't be pinged then we assume it is not >>a problem with the end player, but with the network, and there is no penalty >>unless it goes beyond what we would term excessive (which needs to be defined). > >Eek. If you are lagged, you are lagged, and if you say you are lagged, I will >believe it. If people are going to lie about being lagged they are going to lie >about everything, and I refuse to believe that anyone is going to lie about >anything. I am not going to give in to the slightest bit of paranoia. > >Everyone will be dead honest and all we need to do to figure out what is going >on is ask people. > >bruce I am trying to handle two problems... 'lag' is not one of them either... 1. The opponent disconnects for reasons under his control. his program crashes. His machine acts up. Or he wants to give his program more time to 'think' without getting charged for it. this is possible to detect as if you can get to his ISP, then it isn't a net problem. It is either intentional, or in the phone line. 2. The opponent stays connected, but the ISP is cut off from ICC. I have seen a good bit of this recently. Primarily happens where our OC12 link (going thru deltacom) connects to other networks. I can get to some sites, but not to (say) ICC. The ISP that ICC uses is also not the most reliable at times. I get a fair number of 'connection reset by peer' happenings. And ICC has added about the stupidest feature I have ever seen, recently. In the past, if you got a lag of over 2 minutes, they would generate an 'adjourn' request from the lagged connection. No longer... now they disconnect the lagged user outright... In any case, lag here is not a serious problem most of the time, but it can be. I only want to see that not influence the game excessively..
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