Author: Peter Kappler
Date: 10:22:31 11/14/99
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On November 14, 1999 at 10:25:47, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On November 13, 1999 at 18:39:07, Peter Kappler wrote: <snip> >>4) A Swiss pairing system. Looks like there will be too many participants for >>any form of round robin. > >I have no problems being online for 12 hours a day. With game at 90 x >level we talk about 4 hours a game at maximum (including lag). > >That are 3 games a day easily, as getting to the bathroom, eating >and such is very easy as you're at home (and especially if you're unattended). > >>One of the more complex issues is how many rounds, and what time of day to play. > >We should just pick the day and then appoint that at least 2 rounds get >played that day. As seemingly only the biggest computerchess fans join >this contest it's easy to demand from some of us to get up in the morning >very early, or play till the morning hours (in my case). > >> One drawback of holding a tournament online is that the participants are >>scattered across different time zones. This means the rounds must be timed >>carefully, so we aren't playing games at the crack of dawn in the West, or late >>at night in the East. >> >>Almost all of the participants live between GMT-8 and GMT+1. This spans the >>west coast of the USA to Germany, I think. I'm only aware of two potential >>participants who fall outside of this windows: Amir Ban, in Israel, and Peter >>McKenzie in New Zealand. (Peter has already said he can handle a few late >>nights for a good tourney...) > >>If we played 60+10, then each round would easily finish in under 3 hours, and we >>could play two games per day without much trouble. The early round could start > >At 90 0 we can do easily 3 rounds a day. >Any weekend tournament (non-computerchess) i play 3 rounds a day >at a level of 2 hours a game. I play myselve there, now we only >need to operate having a coca cola this computer. Half of the participants >can even devote all their time to chatting as it runs unattended. > >>at 1700 GMT, and the late round would start at 2000 GMT, finishing at around >>2300 GMT. A bit late in Europe, but not too bad. A 90+10 time control is also >>doable, it just means starting at 1600 GMT, and finishing around midnight GMT. > >I don't see it. >What's wrong with 3 rounds 90 5 a day? >I figured out that the only DOS program is Rebel, and Jeroen is a quick >operator so he'll manage that in under 5 seconds a move. > >>The bottom line is that we can probably only manage 2 rounds per day, so I think >>we'd need to play for two weekends, which would be 8 total rounds. > >I completely disagree here. 3 rounds a day is very easy to do. 8 rounds >sucks in all respects. > I would prefer 3 rounds per day, but it's tricky to do across 9 time zones. At a 90+5 time control, 3 rounds will take at least 10 hours, so if we started at 7am in the GMT-8 timezone, the 3rd round would finish at 1am in the GMT+1 timezone. Keep in mind that 10 hours only works if a new rounds starts immediately after the previous one finishes. I will leave this up to the rest of the gang to decide. I can handle getting up that early in the morning, but there are at least 3 others (Bruce, Will, James) who would need to feel the same way. <snip> >> >>It seems likely that we can get ICC to promote this event. Peter McKenzie and I >>had a conversation with an ICC admin this morning - he's interested in this >>idea. ICC would probably want to call it the "ICC Computer Championship", which > >There comes trouble. >Hell no. > >Never leave it to ICC, that's the worst thing you can do. > >Don't listen to them, ignore them. If they cause trouble, >then we can go play at fics, chess.net, GICS, DICS or whatever. > >>seems appropriate. ICC could also probably supply one or two admins to act as >>tournament directors. It's possible that we could use one of the automated ICC >>"tomato" bots to generate pairings, but I'm not sure how we'd deal with first >>round seedings... > >No way. We don't want to do this. Giving this in the hands of ICC is >the last thing i would vote for. > >Organizing tournaments like this is very easy. I'm doing it regurarly. >Previous week i did it on a weekly basis even. > I understand your concern. I don't intend to give ICC any control over how the tournament is run. I just want them to announce it and promote it a bit. Ed Schroder suggested that ICCA might be interested in promoting the event - this would be great, too. >There are many very good programs to generate pairings, which >even everyone is allowed to download so that one sees in advance who >one might play. > I agree, we can handle this with out own pairing program. --Peter
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