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Subject: Re: Programmers who refuse to share their programs

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 10:41:13 11/14/99

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On November 14, 1999 at 06:46:10, Bella Freud wrote:

>In my opinion the greatest attacks on Mr Hyatt come from commercial and wannabee
>commercial programmers who have benefited mostly from Mr Hyatt's code and ideas,
>but now want to distance themselves from the man himself in order to pretend to
>themselves that they did it "alone".

When I first read this, I thought it was a dig at a particular poster.  Upon
re-reading it, I guess it doesn't have to be.

Most of the commercial programmers had something that was pretty good before
Crafty became available.  They are all competing against each other, but I think
that Crafty's existance makes it even more imperative that they improve their
program each year, because that program anyone can download for free is steadily
improving as well.

I don't have any particular insight into the vendor aspect of things.  I do know
that non-mass market chess programs are generally priced significantly less than
they were a few years ago.  Is this Crafty's fault?  I don't know... probably
not completely, but I think it was a factor.  Another factor is that
organizations like ChessBase have developed an commercial-quality interface that
engines hook into, so many authors focus more on the engine, instead of spending
a lot of their time worrying about an interface to accompany it.

With regards to ideas, I think simple observation is enough to claim that
commercial programs have recently began to include features that first became
prominent in Crafty.  Collectively, though, commercial programmers have injected
enough tidbits into CCC that I think Crafty would improve a fair bit more if Bob
pursued them.  Of course, that's just my opinion... and because I've never
written a complete chess program, and Bob has been doing this for a looong time,
he is free to tell me that I don't know snot. <grin>

Dave



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