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Subject: Re: Moderation:insults

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 14:18:20 11/16/99

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On November 16, 1999 at 15:26:15, odell hall wrote:

>On November 16, 1999 at 14:12:22, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 1999 at 13:50:48, Bella Freud wrote:
>>
>>>On November 16, 1999 at 10:23:42, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>I see sometimes things like these:
>>>>X insults Y and Y respond by insulting X.
>>>>
>>>>I think that this behavior is not productive.
>>>>I think that both sides should be warned not to do it.
>>>>
>>>>I think that criticizing behaviour of someone should be allowed only if it is
>>>>without bad language and based on proved facts.
>>>>
>>>>It is better before posting something negative about someone to send him(her)
>>>>an email to be sure that there is no misunderstanding.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Hi Uri,
>>>
>>>I don't know if you are talking about me. Perhaps not.
>>>
>>>I want to know why I am beign provoked elsewhere.
>>>
>>>Yesterday I had an email from Bruce that was an "official warning". Bruce said I
>>>should post on-topics. Bruce copied the email warning to the other moderators.
>>>Fair enough, I thought, if he felt this way.
>>>
>>>So I posted only on-topic. I made three on-topic posts and did not do anything
>>>else that Bruce could say was an attack.
>>>
>>>
>>>I posted this in reply to Ratko Atomic's post:
>>>
>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>On November 15, 1999 at 17:36:28, Bella Freud wrote:
>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I consider it needs 24 hours to digest the true genius of your post.
>>>>
>>>>It generated in me an instant crystalisation of thought. Just by your inversion.
>>>>Chess programs are playing "negative" chess. They avoid obvious loss by ply N.
>>>>For them perfection is in loss avoidance (the not totally obvious opposite of
>>>>win seeking). Therefore no style, no plan, no class. Just dumb obstructionism.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bella
>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>I thought this post was entorely on-topic and fair thing to say.
>>>Then I got a reply to my post from the anonymous moderator "KarinsDad".
>>>
>>>This is his reply:
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>I posted this same thought a few months back. Of course, my post was not as
>>>eloquent or well thought out as Ratko's. You must have missed it. I guess the
>>>idea is not that appealing to you anymore since I never contribute anything
>>>worthwhile.
>>>
>>>KarinsDad :)
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>I think that the last sentence is a provocation. Or a troll. It is designed to
>>>get me to react.
>>>
>>>Why does an anonymous moderator do this? He must have read the "warning" from
>>>Bruce, and he must also have seen that I was making on-topic posts.
>>>
>>>So why is he trying to stir things up?
>>>
>>>It seems that there are some folk who don't like what I do, whatever I do, and
>>>who are trying to get me banned. Or is there some other wierd motive?
>>>
>>>
>>>Bella
>>
>>I don't think he was talking about you, I won't mention the name of who I
>>beleive he was referring to because I don't want to argue with that person.
>>
>>I don't think that you are in any danger of being bannned, I don't really notice
>>you causing any trouble,  I can't say I understand what you were saying in your
>>post that you quoted above, but it does not appear very off topic to me, I've
>>been farther off topic than that, but I'm fortunate that people tend to ignore
>>me so it's probably easier for me to do that.
>>
>>Pete
>
>
>  Pete I agree with you about Bella, I have read many of his post , and they
>seem fine to me, even entertaining.  Personally I feel anyone should be able to
>say anthing they want as long as it is not a personal attack. However I believe
>the very words you just used in defense of bella, applies also to me. I don't
>understand why everything I say of late has been attacked. Especially since I
>have no record of insulting or attacking other people and I am clearly not a

Odell, for some reason that I refuse to try to figure out, everyone around this
forum seems a bit jumpy lately, and allot of insults have been thrown.  It's
like we've had a full moon for an entire month or 2.  I'd be interested to see
if the entire world was like this at the end of the last century, but to be
quite honest, I don't really find any significance to marks in time other than
in our minds.

But yeah, everyone is too bent out of shape lately.

Pete
>trouble maker after being here for two years.



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