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Subject: Re: Moderation:insults

Author: odell hall

Date: 19:55:14 11/16/99

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On November 16, 1999 at 17:00:44, blass uri wrote:

>On November 16, 1999 at 15:16:36, odell hall wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 1999 at 10:23:42, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>I see sometimes things like these:
>>>X insults Y and Y respond by insulting X.
>>>
>>>I think that this behavior is not productive.
>>>I think that both sides should be warned not to do it.
>>>
>>>I think that criticizing behaviour of someone should be allowed only if it is
>>>without bad language and based on proved facts.
>>>
>>>It is better before posting something negative about someone to send him(her)
>>>an email to be sure that there is no misunderstanding.
>>>
>>>Uri



  Hi Uri

     You are probally correct that emailing the moderators is the correct way to
handle abuse. To be honest although I have used this option once in the past, I
feel very silly.  I feel like a sissy who can't resolve his own problems(forgive
me for the word sissy). I think a grown man should not have to run to the
moderators for every little thing.  Personally for the two years I have been
here I have seen very few post that I would consider offensive. I think CCC
generally has pretty good behavior, now RGCC is a different story. There are
some things in human nature that we just cannot be shielded from,.  Sometimes
you have to accept that there are going to be arguments and disagreements. In my
view only blatant profanity, and a direct attack upon the Person, or ability of
a member should be deleted. Everything else I would allow and encourage.  My
post was controversial, because it contained a vieled critism of the actions of
some programmers, nothing was blatantly offensive. It was in complete compliance
with CCC rules. Ofcourse if the moderators did not agree they would have deleted
the post. However in retrospect I probally should have been more careful in how
I worded it leaving out the criminal word. What would not be taken Literally
elsewhere, is often taken very seriously here , this group is hypersensitive,
after being here for two years I should have realized that. And, Ok I am not the
greatest writer in the world? I don't need to apologize for that  do I?

>>
>>   Uri,  if you are referring to me (which you probally are), all I can say is
>>you have been here as long as I, and longer, You know that before this week I
>>have never said anything ugly to anyone.  You have never seen me butt into a
>>post and start saying derrogatory things or joining the crowd in condemnation of
>>anyone.
>
>I know it.
>
>>However I am also not a turn the other cheek type of person. If someone
>>slaps me in the face I am going to slap them back. But you will never see me
>>picking a fight with anyone.
>
>I know that you did not begin the fight but I do not think that
>it is productive what you call "to slap them back".
>
>If someone hit you then I understand if you hit him back in order to defend
>yourself but here you earn nothing from "slap them back"
>
>You can explain yourself without "slapping them back" and I do not think
>that you lose something from it.
>
><snipped>
>>I agree
>>with your above statement that "critizing behavior of someone should be allowed
>>only if it is without bad language and based on proved facts" I see you that you
>>practice what you preach as you were not one of the people who went into
>>hysteria over my post.  However even at the risk of being booted from this
>>group, if someone insults me again, with words like I am insane and stupid, and
>>the whole nine yards, I will do exactly the same thing that I did before.
>
>If someone will say that I am stupid or insane then I am not going to insult
>him.
>I may complain to the moderators and I may ask by email for the reason for it(it
>may be some misunderstanding).
>
>
>Uri



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