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Subject: Re: Ply Depth and Strength

Author: walter irvin

Date: 13:43:41 11/18/99

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On November 18, 1999 at 14:35:54, Chris Carson wrote:

>On November 18, 1999 at 14:06:35, Joshua Lee wrote:
>
>>Hello  i was wondering who out there in CCC land is rated the highest would care
>>to do an experiment? If so set Hiarcs 7.32 to a ply depth of 1 and go from
>>there.... play lets say 4 to 10 games at each ply depth and write down your
>>results. This would really tell us all possibly how strong at what ply the comp
>>is. This way the speed of the computer is irrelevant.
>
>I like this idea.  I am sure someone will complain about the methodology
>for this experiment (reliability is in doubt), but I think it is a good
>idea.  Also, I would recommend that you have a fast machine so that getting
>to higher ply does not take a long time.  You could also save time by
>starting at a ply of say 8 and then go up a total of 2 ply and down a total of 2
>ply (5 ply total with 10 games at each ply, 5 black, 5 white).  Any program
>should work. Anyone have crafty for this.  If the person is a master, it would
>be great.  The chess program is set to ply depth (no time control) and the
>human plays at game in 2 hours (or 40/2 if you want more time).  Ponder should
>be off.
>
>Just my two cents.  :)  My guess:  8 ply = 2000, each additional ply adds
>200 points.  I am sure 99% of our readers disagree.  :)
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson

i think you are right or close on the 8 ply , but after that i think the higher
you go you get less per ply . i also believe that a jump from 1 ply to 4 ply is
more than 600 points .because once tactics are handled  it comes down to stategy
and the true programs weakness may not be over come so easily just by searching
14 ply instead of 13 .i think the deeper you go  each ply may not be worth more
than 50 elo .at some point say after 25 may not be worth more than 5 or 10
points if that .



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