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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger's Playing Style?

Author: walter irvin

Date: 20:50:20 11/18/99

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On November 18, 1999 at 19:39:25, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On November 18, 1999 at 15:05:29, Jürgen Hartmann wrote:
>
>>Bella,
>>
>>Christophe's post in my opinion was one of the most fascinating contributions
>>ever to CCC. In challenging your opinions about computer chess he displayed
>>insights into the development quest of Tiger without fear to give interesting
>>hints to competitors.
>>
>>Your evasive response is intellectually most disappointing.
>>
>>I wish Christophe Theron and his Chess Tiger success with all my heart because I
>>think he is making a true contribution to chess, computers or not, it doesn't
>>matter anymore nowadays,
>>
>>Jürgen.
>
>
>Thanks Jürgen.
>
>I was very disappointed too.
>
>I was honnestly thinking the discussion had a new sparkle in it, and now I feel
>like it has vanished.
>
>I regret these general discussions don't happen more often. I know we are not
>talking about very concrete programming tricks, but discussing general ideas
>helps to widen the scope of our understanding. I mean when I wrote this I had
>myself to set several things clear in my mind, so it helped me as well.
>
>I regret Don Dailey does not post anymore, we had some nice similar discussions
>last year.
>
>Sometimes you have to stop running like crazy, sit, and ask yourself: what have
>I done? Why did it work? In which direction should I go now?
>
>
>
>    Christophe

you should try and make your program learn , that is the final frontier ,just
like outer space is mans final place to explore ,computer learning is final
answer for chess .its already been done for the end game with egtb ,all that is
needed now is an opening game table base that always lands the program at an
advantage or dead even .an advantage of 2.0 would be enough for a strong program
to hammer home the win .
 the way i see it if a program wins a game ,all the winning positions that were
in that game should not have to be analized again .programmers have stretched a
ton of speed out of there programs . why not tap into the other great advantage
that a computer has over a man , great powers of memory .even though there are
zillion and zillions of posible chess positions , once you eliminate the garbage
the number of worth while positions or positions that you will actually
see(opening) would be less than 1 billion .but then chess would be a long way
toward being solved .



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