Author: blass uri
Date: 09:55:01 11/20/99
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On November 20, 1999 at 12:32:24, Wayne Lowrance wrote: >On November 20, 1999 at 02:42:03, blass uri wrote: > >>On November 20, 1999 at 00:37:32, Wayne Lowrance wrote: >> >> >><snipped> >>>At the moment, for me, the only gauge is SSDF. Its results seem to stand up >>>preety good. SSDF has said for a few years now that Fritz was the strongest >>>program >> >>The ssdf did not say it because they did not test all the programs. >>The ssdf is saying now that chessmaster6000 has better rating than Fritz on the >>same hardware and that tiger has clearly better performance than Fritz. >> >> >>Uri > >No sir, I have had Fritz now for a number of years, it is in that time frame >that i was making reference too. If you recall the controversy made over this >and many many post with complaints. > >Have I missed a ssdf post ? where chessmasater6000 is better than fritz on >current state of the art computers ? slow pentiums, yes. I have chessmaster >6000, it is a fine program and in fact It is a better program at blitz 10 min >than Fritzy and Hiarcs, this I have verified with identical hardware. I know that chessmaster6000 is good at slow time control and not at blitz. 2 hours/40 on p200 is eqvivalent to 50 minutes/40 on fast hardware and it is not blitz. >At the moment that honor goes to Hiarcs and Fritz5.32 of the programs i have, >Hiarcs best, then Fritz. I have Nimzo99, Junior5, Crafty17.1,cm6000 (and all the >rest of CM's) and many more enginess. >I do not know where I would rate the rest of these programs behinds Hiarcs and >Fritz, but they are behind those two and Crafty17.1 for the short time i have >had it probobly is around 3rd, with a better book than the one I downloaded >maybe higher yet. Do you find that crafty17.1 is better than other programs except fritz,hiarcs? > >Well I understand that this site is not meant for us users. It is a site for >chess programmars and technical people involved in the art of chess programming. >I think it is great, I really do. > >Also I understand that tournaments like Patterborn are a chance for the chess >Authors to compete and demonstrate there program to there peers. I am keenly >interested in the results and My silent congratulations goes out to all of them >for there exhasting effort. > >However but It is, as I said, not a good measuring stick for us users to >determine order of chess prowess. > >Example: I will wager that had Dr. Hyatt and his best crafty version entered >patterborn with his quad Xeons that result would have been different, with >crafty number one. It is not clear because in one tournament everything can happen. I do not like the idea that crafty is going to be number 1 because it is going to be a disaster for programmers who worked hard for their programs and want to sell their program. <snipped> >Do you all realize that (In my judgement) the vast majority of the purchers of >chess programs do so for the enjoyment of playing the program against other >programs ?. I do not think that it is the case. I believe that most of the purchers of chess progrms do so to analyze their games. Uri
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