Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 15:02:57 11/22/99
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On November 21, 1999 at 20:36:21, Pete Galati wrote:
>On November 21, 1999 at 17:25:15, Jari Huikari wrote:
>
>>On November 21, 1999 at 14:28:58, Pete Galati wrote:
>>
>>>With Sargon 5 you have to be in Dos, it won't work in a Dos window
>>>at all. Sargon III however might be a different story, it might be willing to
>>>run in a Dos window.
>>
>>I guess no "PC VIC-emulator" could help me to run my Sargon II, because
>>it's on cartridge! (which needs muscles of Samson to be placed to it's hole
>>in VIC's backside. :-)
>>
>>I hope to find somewhere working TV-modulator for my VIC. All the other
>>parts are still working, but it's too much "blindfold", if the screen
>>doesn't show you even the coordinates of computer's moves. :-)
>>
>>If I get a modulator I could challenge the program with my Nero or
>>perhaps with other opponents too by corresponding the moves.
>>
>>Only problem I remember: When I did board setups with Sargon II, it
>>didn't allow double pawn moves like e2-e4... And I'd like to switch VIC
>>off while waiting for opponents moves.
>>
>>In junior high school we played with a friend a game Sargon II v. Sargon II
>>with two VICs (level 6). Black's second move 2...Nc6 took about one hour and
>>later the game slowed down even more... I don't remember if we had enough
>>patience to ever finish the game. :-)
>>
>> Jari
>
>I'd never seen the older Sargons, even though Sargon 5 is very dated, it seems
>to be somewhat advanced compared to what you describe. I went back to Dos and
>played a couple games against it today since it's name came up, very enjoyable
>games, Sargon plays very different Chess than the modern programs. I'd recomend
>the program to people but everyone wants sleek modern interfaces and everything,
>and Sargon does not have that.
>
>Pete
Sargon V for PC is not bad.
It is the PC port of the very famous Mach II dedicated computer.
The interesting thing about it is that it uses hash tables (but you have to boot
with an EMS driver), and that it is a brute-force program with no extensions. I
think there is not even the check extension, and that it does almost no
selectivity (just plain alpha-beta).
So it's interesting because it is sometimes able to find holes against a
selective program.
However generally it gets killed because of lack of depth in its search.
I can run it in a W95 DOS box, so I don't understand why you can't.
This program has been sold with at least two different names:
* Sargon V
* World Class Chess
Sargon V is protected: it asks you for some works you have to pick in the manual
(please enter the word page 4, paragraph 5, line 2). I have bypassed this by
running it a lot of times and writting down each word I have been asked for in a
text file.
It happens that the program can only ask for 50 words, no more. So with a little
text file you can always give the answer and run it.
This is no pirating, I have bought this program and have the original manual and
floppies!
Christophe
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