Author: Pete Galati
Date: 18:40:18 11/22/99
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On November 22, 1999 at 18:35:05, Pete Galati wrote: >On November 22, 1999 at 18:02:57, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On November 21, 1999 at 20:36:21, Pete Galati wrote: >> >>>On November 21, 1999 at 17:25:15, Jari Huikari wrote: >>> >>>>On November 21, 1999 at 14:28:58, Pete Galati wrote: >>>> >>>>>With Sargon 5 you have to be in Dos, it won't work in a Dos window >>>>>at all. Sargon III however might be a different story, it might be willing to >>>>>run in a Dos window. >>>> >>>>I guess no "PC VIC-emulator" could help me to run my Sargon II, because >>>>it's on cartridge! (which needs muscles of Samson to be placed to it's hole >>>>in VIC's backside. :-) >>>> >>>>I hope to find somewhere working TV-modulator for my VIC. All the other >>>>parts are still working, but it's too much "blindfold", if the screen >>>>doesn't show you even the coordinates of computer's moves. :-) >>>> >>>>If I get a modulator I could challenge the program with my Nero or >>>>perhaps with other opponents too by corresponding the moves. >>>> >>>>Only problem I remember: When I did board setups with Sargon II, it >>>>didn't allow double pawn moves like e2-e4... And I'd like to switch VIC >>>>off while waiting for opponents moves. >>>> >>>>In junior high school we played with a friend a game Sargon II v. Sargon II >>>>with two VICs (level 6). Black's second move 2...Nc6 took about one hour and >>>>later the game slowed down even more... I don't remember if we had enough >>>>patience to ever finish the game. :-) >>>> >>>> Jari >>> >>>I'd never seen the older Sargons, even though Sargon 5 is very dated, it seems >>>to be somewhat advanced compared to what you describe. I went back to Dos and >>>played a couple games against it today since it's name came up, very enjoyable >>>games, Sargon plays very different Chess than the modern programs. I'd recomend >>>the program to people but everyone wants sleek modern interfaces and everything, >>>and Sargon does not have that. >>> >>>Pete >> >> >>Sargon V for PC is not bad. >> >>It is the PC port of the very famous Mach II dedicated computer. >> >>The interesting thing about it is that it uses hash tables (but you have to boot >>with an EMS driver), and that it is a brute-force program with no extensions. I >>think there is not even the check extension, and that it does almost no >>selectivity (just plain alpha-beta). >> >>So it's interesting because it is sometimes able to find holes against a >>selective program. >> >>However generally it gets killed because of lack of depth in its search. >> >>I can run it in a W95 DOS box, so I don't understand why you can't. > >I might need to sit down and try other pif settings for it's shortcut, as it is >now it restarts into Dos before starting. > The trick was to in the properties/program/advanced settings area to select "Prevent MS-Dos program from detecting Windows" and then Sargon seemed to work OK in Windows, other than eventually having the mouse freeze up when I tried to play it against Bringer (it did make it to around move 30 though) it did quite well, it seemed to be ahead in that game, it's a shame I could not finish the game. Thanks Christophe, I probably would not have tried that if you hadn't mentioned being able to do that, I really thought it wasn't posible to run it in Windows, shows you how little I know. Pete [.....
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