Author: KarinsDad
Date: 14:54:07 11/26/99
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On November 26, 1999 at 15:14:57, blass uri wrote: >On November 26, 1999 at 12:14:00, KarinsDad wrote: ><snipped> >>I believe that this is a naive viewpoint. I think you should compare style of >>posts, content of posts, and location of ISP before making a judgement. I do not >>think you should base this type of opinion on what the person claimed in a post. >>People do lie you know. > >I know that people lie but I believe people when they have nothing to earn from >lying. That is one of the problems with faith versus knowledge. If you believe something based purely on your own mental framework of the universe around you and because of your faith, you discard obvious discrepencies since they do not fit in with your framework, then someone like myself who does see discrepencies will never convince you otherwise. This is a major problem in our society, even within the scientific community. For example, some scientists have believed in the big bang theory for so long, that they embraced dark matter theory automatically. But if you look at dark matter theory, it is one of the most hocus pocus type theories ever conceived and is supported only due to the mathematics involving two observed phenomena. In the case of Chris/Bella, I base my opinion on probability. It is extremely improbable that Bella would have the exact same opinions as Chris has posted elsewhere on issue after issue. I would expect a discrepency between what I expect Chris' opinion to be on a topic to be, and what Bella posts. Bella did not like fast searchers. Bella did not like anonymous posters (such as myself). Bella Freud is the name of a fashion designer (similar to other Chris famous person pseudonames such as Herman Hesse). Bella displayed an overwhelming knowledge of computer chess in general and individual CCC computer chess posts similar to someone who has been around here reading posts for years. Bella showed disdain for both individuals and the forum here. Bella believes that programs should play more human like chess. Bella had a superiority complex. Bella was from England. These are all traits that Chris has displayed. I do not say that Chris was Bella. I say that it is extremely probable that Chris was Bella (this is most likely a virtual certainty). > >From my point of view chris has nothing to earn from lying and I have nothing to >lose from the fact that I believe bella is not chris. You are entitled to that opinion and are correct that you have nothing to lose. But just because you do not see how Chris would earn something from posing as Bella does not mean that Chris does not see an advantage in doing so (and Chris may also see an advantage in hiding what he gains from posing as someone else other than the obvious advantage of getting to post on the forum; in other words, Chris could want you to not see what reasons he has for posting in that manner). The issue of pretending to be female is easy to explain. Chris has been banned for a long time and could desire to talk about computer chess. Chris' theories on computer chess programming are somewhat different from other people's. Chris sees himself as a maverick or outsider. What better way to illustrate how different your point of view from the lowly typical masses than to pose as a woman on a mostly male site? In fact, sexism was the first topic brought up on the site by Bella. Seriously, why would a person as knowledgeable as Bella on computer chess jump in and blow up the controversial issue of sexism as the first thing she does if she wanted to be considered a serious computer chess poster? It seriously seems as if she showed up just to cause trouble as opposed to showing up to talk about computer chess (that did not happen until much later). > >I think that a possible result of not believing people is that there are some >women who pretend to be men because I see that all this suspect is against >people with female names. This is possible. However, since it seems more probable that a woman would pose as a man does NOT mean that it is improbable for a man to pose as a woman. > >I do not think that chris is a lier who pretend to be both feminist and woman. That is the point. Although you may think this is not true, the data from Bella's posts indicates otherwise. Go back and read all of her posts and use your common sense as opposed to your humanistic gut feel to make your determination. Try to determine the motivating factors for each post from the point of view of a man posing as a woman and as a real woman and see if it makes more sense for a woman to post those things or for a man posing as a woman to post those things (of course, the more venomous postings have been deleted, so you will have to make do with the more mild posts). > >Uri KarinsDad :)
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