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Subject: Re: speed question about C programs

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 14:04:11 11/27/99

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On November 27, 1999 at 08:59:51, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On November 27, 1999 at 04:16:53, blass uri wrote:
>
>>Does someone know about a book about the fastest C program to do simple tasks?
>>(for example to find if a number is a prime)
>
>>I think that knowing this information can help to think about ideas how to do
>>chess programs faster.
>
>Let's please distinguish two things
>  - used algorithm
>  - used implementation
>
>You can make a very good optimized program A to generate primes,
>but a silly implemented other program B might generate at the same
>hardware a lot faster primes using a better algorithm.
>
>In general people then say that program A sucks and that a program B is
>wonderful... ...yet from programming viewpoint this is rather hard to do.
>
>>I understand that +- operations are faster than */ operations but I do not know
>>how much faster and if it is dependent on the computer.
>
>That depends upon architecture.
>Multiply is in general not slower than incrementing with a register.
>I'm using a lot of multiples in my DIEP's eval.
>
>At the P5 it sure is very slow. At the PRO/PII/PIII/Xeon it isn't.
>Don't know about the K7, but i bet it's not slower there either, as
>DIEP runs 15.5% faster on a K7 than on a PIII at the same Mhz.
>
>>Where can I get information like this information?
>
>www.intel.com
>
>Go to the technical references of the CPUs.
>K7 is harder.
>
>>I can find it by doing a simple program but I prefer not to check everything
>>about speed by testing because I may have many question like this question.
>>Uri
>
>Rather hard to find it by doing a simple program, measuring things
>accurately is also an art in itselve.
>
>What is however slowing down programs most is not the clocks needed to
>do an integer multiplication. The real problem are branches. At the
>Merced this should all be solved, so i wonder why the first vague reports
>about the merced don't say it to be a lot faster than the 21264 cpu.

Yes, but at IA-64 multiplication is *very* slow.

Eugene



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