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Subject: Off topic

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 23:04:09 11/27/99

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Eelco,

Not to belabor this a lot, but the entire issue is one of 90 to 99% of "matter"
is dark matter (according to the theorists). However, it only affects two known
light phenomena in space out of dozens (and only one of these is via fairly
direct gravitational effect, the other is pure mathematics based on a theory).
For example, scientists cannot find out if neutrinos have mass at all, but
consider them to be a main candidate for some major fraction of dark matter.
Does it not seem strange that scientists can measure the mass of a proton, but
not the mass of a neutrino when neutrinos should outnumber (in quantity) normal
protons by a billion to one? One would think that if there are so many of them,
that the mass could be measured via quantity somehow.

The entire thing is just an attempt to keep the big bang theory (or even the
inflationary universe theory) alive (via mathematics) and to give people
something to write their PhD thesis' on in physics. It is extremely difficult to
remove a theory that held sway for such a long time. Look how long it took for
the solid state theory to go away.

If you are interested, you can read the following web page on dark matter and
mysticism. It will show you the level at which people will believe almost
anything (even PhDs).

http://www.thuntek.net/sumeria/cosmo/darkmatter.html

Finally, consider the following. If scientists are merely deluded into thinking
that the universe is really expanding (similar to how scientists one day thought
the earth was flat or the center of the universe), then if the universe is not
really expanding (just appears to be expanding), then dark matter (and the big
bang theory) is a total sham based on a false premise. In our arrogance, could
it be that we have created the 20th century version of the flat earth theory?

KarinsDad :)

PS. I haven't had a good off topic discusion since I became moderator. I felt
like loosening my collar for a change. I used to post a few off topics a month.

PSS. Although dark matter theories have been around for years, the quantity of
dark matter is not only an estimate, but that estimate has been changing every
time they come up with a different size of the universe (which probably doesn't
have a set size, or at least not a measurable one). This is what I meant by
bleeding edge in my previous message. The theory changes everytime a
technological advance puts a better telescope up.



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