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Subject: Re: Nimzo's SSDF result vs. Thuringer result

Author: Lonnie Cook

Date: 05:33:19 11/28/99

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On November 28, 1999 at 06:49:40, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On November 28, 1999 at 05:00:30, Alexander Kure wrote:
>
>>On November 28, 1999 at 04:17:05, Marcus Kaestner wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>I don't know exactly,
>>>>but in general there is a big difference between nimzo
>>>>using its normal (big) book and nimzo using its tournament book.
>>>>
>>>>Using the general book it doesn't do very well at the icc server
>>>>either against crafty, diep and many others at somewhat slower levels.
>>>>
>>>>Just the difference between these books already makes this huge difference
>>>>between winning an event or losing an event for nimzo.
>>>>
>>>>Idem for some other programs.
>>>
>>>hi vincent,
>>>
>>>here you could be right! i´ve made some tests again shredder 4, Fritz 6 and
>>>rebel century for the new chessbits and analyzed the games. the following thing
>>>was coming out:
>>>
>>>in 60 games nimzo got a result of +9/-7/0
>>>that means nimzo was much stronger than the opponents in the opening. it scored
>>>10:1 so overall a plus of 9 points! in the middlegame it was much weaker than
>>>the others, making an overall minus of 7, in the endgame it was of equal
>>>strength.
>>>
>>>i was very surprised about the influence of the fantastic kure-book.
>>>
>>>marcus
>>
>>
>>I am sorry but I don't agree, that the book of Nimzo has such an overhelming
>>influence on Nimzo's overall performance. Why not try to play testgames without
>>using an opening book at all to find out?
>
>I agree with you. I did quite a lot of testing with Nimzo 7.32 without book and
>its performance is just as good as indicated by the SSDF list. Nimzo is a very
>strong (and fast!) program.

I think Nimzo is a horrible program. Couldn't win if my life depended upon it
and the resulkts in that tourney reflected exactly my feelings, low quality. I
stopped using it a long time ago. Like Vincent said last night IF_LOSING   NEXT
GET_ANOTHER or something like that, it was funny
>
>Enrique
>
>>Greetings
>>Alex



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