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Subject: Re: Nimzo's SSDF result vs. Thuringer result

Author: Alexander Kure

Date: 10:36:55 11/28/99

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On November 28, 1999 at 07:36:10, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On November 28, 1999 at 05:05:52, Alexander Kure wrote:
>
>Search moron varguz, most recent games:
>
>4.5 - 1.5
>
>Let's analyze the games a bit will we, next msg cuz i gotta eat first
>
> 0  2590 Varguz     2592 Moron      0-1 [ su 30  30] A14 Res 17-Nov-99
> 1  2592 Moron      2590 Varguz     1-0 [ su 30  30] D10 Res 17-Nov-99
> 2  2637 Varguz     2527 Moron       =  [ su 30  30] B22 Agr 14-Nov-99
> 3  2527 Moron      2637 Varguz     1-0 [ su 30  30] B33 Res 14-Nov-99
> 4  2637 Varguz     2527 Moron      1-0 [ su 30  30] B81 Res 14-Nov-99
> 5  2527 Moron      2637 Varguz     1-0 [ su 30  30] A21 Res 14-Nov-99
>
>
>>On November 27, 1999 at 22:25:30, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On November 27, 1999 at 22:02:49, eric guttenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>>Most of the interest generated by the new SSDF ratings has been in
>>>>the performance of the impressive Tiger program. But I am intrigued
>>>>by Nimzo 7.32.
>>>>Nimzo ranked respectably in the standings, slightly behind F5.32 and
>>>>ahead of Junior 5 and Hiarcs 7.32. Yet at the Thuringer tournaments
>>>>earlier this month, it not only produced 0 wins in 13 rounds and
>>>>last place but according to Marcus Kaestner's eyewitness account
>>>>produced a quality of play that was laughable, unbelievably bad,
>>>>game after awful game.
>>>>Has anyone discovered an explanation for this?
>>>>
>>>>eric
>>>
>>>I don't know exactly,
>>>but in general there is a big difference between nimzo
>>>using its normal (big) book and nimzo using its tournament book.
>>>
>>
>>
>>There is a difference.
>>
>>
>>>Using the general book it doesn't do very well at the icc server
>>>either against crafty, diep and many others at somewhat slower levels.
>>
>>
>>Sorry Vincent, that is not true. Nimzo does for example extremly well (> 50%)
>>against crafty at 30 1 (just do a search to find out).
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Just the difference between these books already makes this huge difference
>>>between winning an event or losing an event for nimzo.
>>>
>>
>>I do not agree! At SSDF Nimzo 7.32 playes with his standard book and got
>>reasonable results. I do not know what book they used at Thueringen tournament,
>>but no matter what book they used, it would not make much difference on Nimzo's
>>overall performance.
>>
>>>Idem for some other programs.


Hi Vincent,

whenever you need help from statistics, get all information (search VArguz Moron
standard):

   0  2590 Varguz     2592 Moron      0-1 [ su 30  30] A14 Res 17-Nov-99
   1  2592 Moron      2590 Varguz     1-0 [ su 30  30] D10 Res 17-Nov-99
   2  2637 Varguz     2527 Moron       =  [ su 30  30] B22 Agr 14-Nov-99
   3  2527 Moron      2637 Varguz     1-0 [ su 30  30] B33 Res 14-Nov-99
   4  2637 Varguz     2527 Moron      1-0 [ su 30  30] B81 Res 14-Nov-99
   5  2527 Moron      2637 Varguz     1-0 [ su 30  30] A21 Res 14-Nov-99
   6  2469 Moron      2550 Varguz     1-0 [ su 30  30] E92 Mat 30-Aug-99
   7  2550 Varguz     2469 Moron      0-1 [ su 60  30] C56 Res 30-Aug-99
   8  2469 Moron      2550 Varguz     0-1 [ su 60  30] A13 Mat 30-Aug-99
   9  2550 Varguz     2398 Moron      1-0 [ sr 30  30] A05 Mat 28-Aug-99
  10  2403 Moron      2523 Varguz     1-0 [ sr 30  30] A04 Res 28-Aug-99
  11  2580 Varguz     2393 Moron      1-0 [ sr 30  30] C99 Mat 27-Aug-99
  12  2390 Moron      2551 Varguz     0-1 [ sr 30  30] B06 Res 27-Aug-99

game 0 and game 1 both ended after 8 moves: I resigned cause i wanted to go to
bed. So practically they do not count.

The rest gives a perfect 50% score, for 30 30 and the two 60 30 games.

Greetings
Alex



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