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Subject: Re: Positional/Real Sacrifice

Author: Daniel Clausen

Date: 14:26:58 11/30/99

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Hi

On November 29, 1999 at 15:11:39, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>>>r3q1k1/ppp1rpp1/2n1b2p/8/2P2B2/3B4/PPPQ1RPP/5RK1 w - -
>>>

>This looks _incredibly_ dangerous.  For every position where Bxh6 works,
>there are 10 positions where Bxh6 loses.  Here a piece for two pawns looks
>awful if the other pieces can't get over to help out...  Speculative play is
>nice, as in the old days of the Novag gadgets from Kittinger, and in the current
>play of CSTal...  but it can backfire big-time as well...
>
>Crafty doesn't like the sac, unless it sees actual material coming back, because
>I have spent a lot of time teaching it which types of material imbalance are
>bad and which types are good.  A piece for 2 pawns is always bad unless there
>is some tactical conclusion at the end.  And given the above PV there obviously
>isn't anything except a somewhat naked king position for black...

I agree with you that such moves can backfire, but I'm still confused. As far
I know your intention is to make a strong program against humans. (Beating other
computers has a much lower priority) But aren't moves like Bxh6 extremely good
against humans? If there's really a way to defend for Black, it's more likely
that
a computer will find it, whereas a human (even if it's a GM) has so many ways
to make one wrong move and most prolly will choose one of them.

I kind of reminds me of the game DB-Kasparov where DB made the known knight
sacrifice on e6. (not 100% sure now) For a human it's more or less hopeless to
continue there, the only chance is that the opponent is also a tactical monster
which is able to find the one and only way out. Just curious.

Kind regards,
 -sargon



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