Author: Peter Kappler
Date: 20:43:27 11/30/99
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On November 30, 1999 at 21:56:04, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >On November 30, 1999 at 21:40:48, Peter Kappler wrote: > >>On November 30, 1999 at 20:27:50, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >> >>>On November 30, 1999 at 19:37:15, Peter Kappler wrote: >>> >>>>On November 30, 1999 at 18:37:10, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 30, 1999 at 17:18:16, Peter Kappler wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 30, 1999 at 16:39:23, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On November 30, 1999 at 13:35:04, Peter Kappler wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On November 30, 1999 at 12:57:21, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On November 30, 1999 at 01:48:49, Peter Kappler wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On November 30, 1999 at 00:00:17, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>On November 29, 1999 at 23:08:30, Dennis A. Bourgerie wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>I am thinking about buying a notebook computer. There are different kinds of >>>>>>>>>>>>processors on the market, for example, Celeron, K6-2, K6-3, Pentium, Pentium II, >>>>>>>>>>>>Pentium III. I would like to get a notebook that can efficiently run Rebel 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>or Fritz or other chess programs. >>>>>>>>>>>> My question is: If the processors were to be ranked from best to worst how >>>>>>>>>>>>would the list go? Also what other factors (maybe RAM or secondary cache) are >>>>>>>>>>>>the most important for getting good results from a chess program? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Dennis, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Wait till Jan 19, 2000 when the Crusoe processor from Transmeta is released. >>>>>>>>>>>You will be able to run both Mac and PC applications on the same machine. In >>>>>>>>>>>addition, the speed will be much improved. For further info see their site at >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.transmeta.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Tim Frohlick >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>This seems like dubious advice. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>How can this be dubious advice? He is advising to "Wait till Jan 19, 2000", not >>>>>>>>>necessarily to buy it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It's dubious advice because Crusoe won't be available on Jan 19, or even >>>>>>>>anywhere close to that date. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>--Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>>What is this? You clipped off from my message an important reason why waiting >>>>>>>until January is a good idea without indicating having done so. It makes a >>>>>>>significant difference here. Nice move. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Why are you being so defensive? I clipped it because it was irrelevant to my >>>>>>point, i.e. that Tim's advice to Dennis was dubious. >>>>>> >>>>>>Maybe you should go back and read my original response to Tim's post. Tim told >>>>>>Dennis not to buy a system before Jan 19, since that is the date Crusoe will be >>>>>>"released". The fact is that Jan 19 is the day Crusoe is being *announced*. >>>>>>We're still a *long* way from seeing this technology in consumer systems. >>>>>> >>>>>>Dennis will be disappointed if he takes Tim's advice and waits till Jan 19 >>>>>>*just* so he can get a Crusoe-based system. >>>>>> >>>>>>You posted a different reason why it might make sense to wait until January or >>>>>>February, which is fine, but it has nothing to do with my original point. Hope >>>>>>that's clear... >>>>>> >>>>>>--Peter >>>>> >>>>>The point is: waiting until January is good advice irrespective of the existence >>>>>of crusoe, so how can waiting be dubious? >>>> >>>> >>>>We never established that waiting until January is good advice irrespective of >>>>Crusoe. Maybe price isn't an issue for him and he won't want to wait 2 more >>>>months to save an extra 5-10%. Maybe today's systems offer everything he needs, >>>>and waiting for new product announcements in January isn't appealing to him. >>>>Who knows? Nobody asked him. >>> >>>OK, I'll concede all the above. How does that make his advice, to wait, >>>dubious? Just because he confused the announcement date with the release date >>>does not make the advice dubious. >> >> >>Ricardo, I think you are unnecessarily splitting hairs at this point. I never >>took issue with the technology, just the date. >> >> >>> It only makes the reason to wait dubious. >>>Concluding the advice to be dubious, because the reason he gave was not correct, >>>is a non sequitur. >>> >> >>Little hair fibers all over the floor... :-) >> >> >>>> >>>>The *only* point I have been trying (repeatedly) to make is that he should not >>>>wait until January *just* to try to get a Crusoe system, because they won't be >>>>shipping anytime remotely close to that time frame. >>> >>>This is the first time you make that point. Before your point was the advice was >>>dubious. >>> >> >>As I said above, I think it's obvious that I was taking issue with the date and >>not the technology. > >Where did this "the technology" come from? What are you talking about now? >Another non sequitur. As far as I'm concerned, Crusoe is vaporware. Is that "the >technology" you are referring to now? Why can't you just fess up to the fact the >desribing the advice "to wait" as dubious was an unwarranted conclusion? Because it wasn't unwarranted. Simple enough? >Instead, you go off on a tangent and start talking about "the technology". >What's the matter with you? Calm down, Ricardo. It's absurd to get upset about such a silly thing. Is this really so important to you? Lets review: 1) You agree with me - Crusoe won't ship in January. 2) You've think that Crusoe is vaporware. So why wasn't Tim's advice dubious? And yes, it's irrelevant that you can think of other reasons to wait until January. My "dubious" comment was directed specifically at *his* reason. --Peter
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